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I'm at my wits end, and have just wasted another evening hitting up against the same sync problems of my echoplex, over and over again. My echoplex 'jumps' synch after all but a few simple commands. That is to say, it starts thinking that the start of the bar is somewhere other than where it originally though it is. The cure is a hard reboot - otherwise, when it stops to 'recapture' synch, it misses the starting point in the same spot that it lost it to. At first I though it was only when I was doing 'next loops', since that was what I was trying to master at the time. However, the unit exhibits this problem when sticking within one loop, performing some simple over dubbing. I've tried 3 different clock sources - my computer, the repeater and my xl-7 hardware sequencer. Has anyone else experienced this? Is anyone else slaving to midi synch exclusively? Could I be dealing with broken hardware, all along? I've spent several years trying to master this box, but it just won't behave the way it's supposed to. bIz ------------ http://www.groovetronica.com - "Well, it hasn't made it into our playlist, I'm afraid. It's summer so there are no djs here to listen to and play music, so we're just playing automated music right now." ------------