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my ineko arrived today from m.f. in an appropriately sized box, i am amazed at how small the unit is (5.75"x1.75"x5.50").....it is not a box that lends itself well to live looping (tm) at least in terms of navigation of the presets.....no memory (user patches), no midi.....i had it sitting on my leg as i was playing with it, it can keep ya warm on a cold day, i like that.....i haven't even scratched the surface of this unit but i feel that it is well worth the $74.00 i paid for it (shipping included).....mr. rick was so right, big bang for the buck.....i'm a sucker for detuning, with this you can have the original sound and have different "harmonys" on both the left and right channels, maddness!.....that and the ring modulator alone are worth the price of admission.....it sounds very clean to me and i like the stereoness of it.....now i have to figure out where to place it in my signal chain.....hmmmmmm.....michael