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Greg & Bernhard, Not trying to create a competition or anything! :) I had already done this last night, and written most of this email, but was zonked so I decided to send it out today. Obviously, I'm going ahead with that plan, but I really don't want to create a confusing situation. Maybe everyone can have a look and make comments, and we can decide where to go from there? Everyone, I threw together a quick demo of the idea I had re: LD artist listings. It also seems to lend itself to individual audio file links, and to CD reviews, so I also integrated that idea into the demo. The link: http://www.mrscox.com/sslinks/links.php The root of this is my wife's website (she's an 8th grade english teacher). Please don't email her questions about diagramming a sentence or anything. :) The basic idea: Treat artist listings (and individual track links, and CD reviews) similar to old-school Yahoo listings. There is a primary set of characteristics that define the *browsable* heirarchy, but each listing also has specific fields for other characteristics, so that advanced *searching* can be done. This supports the idea that a few folks have mentioned, and that Andre proposed a list for - being able to build specific queries across these characteristics to find the artists, audio files, or cd reviews. In the demo, the pre-defined categories are "media" related - i.e., Artist Sites, Audio Files, CD Reviews, etc. Artist Sites *could* be sub-divided into sections for browsability. Something concrete would be good - like "home region of the world". Each listing/link then has a description and a set of characteristics. For demo purposes, I just kinda translated Andre's list: Desc, Genre/Style, Instruments, Looper, Reference Artist, Live vs. Studio approach, Compositional Approach, Year Released. These characteristics could be an endlessly debateable topic, so I'd suggest we not linger on it too long, and instead provide an interface like this: - for each characteristic, have the user choose a certain number of predefined values (3 Genre/Styles, for instance), and then also include a small freeform text area for them to add their own words. So, I could choose "Ambient", "Solo Guitar", "Electronica" and then type "rhythmic, out of tune, boring" in the freeform area. Those would all be concatenated together when someone does a search on "Genre/Style". Again, debating which list of Genre/Styles (or Live vs. Studio descriptions, or - heaven forbid! - Compositional Approaches) to use doesn't sound like fun. Maybe someone could just put a reasonable proposal on the table for each, and we go with that? You'll see that I mocked up the search page to handle all of these characteristics, but the gears aren't installed behind it to make it really work. :) Just giving a feel for how that interface might look. Would love to hear comments! Added today: Greg - if this looks like a way you'd like to go as well, let me know, and we could split up the work in getting it done. I suspect that with quick decisions on the various characteristics, we could get this up before the end of this week. The custom coding to be done is very simple. Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bernhard Wagner" <loopdelightml@nosuch.biz> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2003 9:55 AM Subject: RE: Narrowing the field (Re: Currently available looper music webpage) > I set up a prototype > > http://www.xmlizer.biz/cgi-bin/LoopersDelightReviews/kwiki.cgi > > Bernhard >