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At 05:17 AM 1/30/2004, Glenn Poorman wrote: > > So, out of curiosity, which foot controller/front panel > > buttons trigger song > > start and song stop messages? There's not a "stop/play" button. > >Anything that sets the initial time will send out a time sync >and a song start. So hit record, do your first pass, and then >hit record again (or any of the alternate endings) and the >drum machine will start. The tempo is determined both by the >length of the loop as well as the "8ths beat" setting. With LoopIV, you also have the Tempo functions that let you send clock and startsongs before you record the loop, and then have your loop match that tempo when you do record it. You can also have it trigger the startsong message when you start recording, as opposed to when you end the loop record. This is useful for having a sequencer come in immediately when you start playing, instead of after you create the loop. You also have the ReAlign functions, which allow you to stop the sequencer and then have the Echoplex start it up in sync again with your loop when you want. If the Echoplex is the slave ReAlign lets you shift your loops out of alignment with the clock (by retriggering or reversing or whatever) and then ReAlign back with the sequencer. Or if you have stopped the sequencer and decide to start it again, the Echoplex will line the loop up when the clock starts again. > > I assume "mute" doesn't cause a song stop message to be sent, correct? >I > > want to be able to mute my loop and still have the percussion going. > >Mute does send a song stop in Loop IV. It didn't in Loop III. no, that is wrong. It sends stopsong when you reset the loop. not with mute. You do have a variety of additional ways to command startsongs. For example, if you have stopped the sequencer and put the loop in Mute, triggering the loop from the start sends a startsong message so that the sequencer starts with it. You also have some flexibility depending on how the sync parameter is set. Sync=out sends startsongs automatically for you at the times you would expect. (ending record, retriggering, etc.) If the Sync parameter is set to "Out User Start" (OuS), it sends the clock but does not automatically send startsongs, and you do it manually with the various startsong functions (in midi or from the front panel). Check the manual, this stuff is all in there. >I would like to be able to revert to the Loop III behavior >but I haven't found that to be configurable. Of course, that >doesn't mean it isn't, it just means I haven't found it. Please read the sync sections of the manual, you seem to be missing a lot of what LoopIV can do with sync. It is FAR more powerful than LoopIII. Also, it doesn't take away anything you had with LoopIII. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com