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In a message dated 7/6/04 2:40:01 PM, mtman@cloud9.net writes: << I asked for recommendations for a small, portable multi-track recorder a while back. Based on a recommendation here, I bought a Zoom PS-04. I was quite disappointed with it. Aside from the cheap construction, the interface wasn't at all intuitive (at least for me). There's no undo, and I couldn't find a simple, easy-to-use way to erase a single track or a whole recording. In addition, the looping feature doesn't seem to work properly. >> Sorry to hear that, it was my suggestion. I found the PS02 easy to use after a while. On the PS02 there is an edit key and a store key that were used to delete, it is quite simple and fast. I looked at the PS04 manual online and it appears now they have a delete/copy key that provides the same function. You can delete by track, vtrack or the whole song. I was responding to your request in regards to price and portability, built-in mic, multiple tracks and audio quality, not looping. You might try building an extended looplike track on the Zoom by repeatedly copying a part to a track range point by range point, as in bounce/bounce/rebounce stc. But that is time consuming, better get yourself some sort of looper. I don't know of any minidisc that has a loop function or a read/write delete function, at least not at a cheap price. The BOSS BR532 is a good smart card recorder that has a loop function but it is more expensive and less portable, it won't fit in your shirt pocket. Unless you've already returned it I would give the Zoom a chance, use it a lot, try stuff, it will become intuitive eventually. As I recall, in the lo-fi record mode and using a 128MB card you can get up to 6 hours of recording time, that is pretty darn good for a tiny card. If you want to hear samples, I did both of the songs on this page using the PS02: http://tinyurl.com/yuru7 Anyway, hope you find something that suits your needs. BobC www.cdbaby.com/rpcollier http://trundlebox.iuma.com http://brokenaxe.iuma.com