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If I've correct understood, you are looking for a "generative program", like that Eno had used for Generative Music. The program name is Koan Pro (vers. 2.7) If it interests, go to www.sseyo.com Ther's also another program called Koan-X and it mixes level, pan and other parameters of the midi and audio individual tracks of your song. I've experimented both for a very small time and I find that Koan Pro requires a lot of time to be programmed. Koan X is funny, because, expecially if you plau ambient music, it easily create different remixes of your song. Bye Fabio http://stage.vitaminic.com/eterogeneo http://music.download.com/eterogeneo/3600-8357-100294444.html?tag=quickurl _______________________________________________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Evans" <jeff@sccadv.com> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 7:03 PM Subject: Randomization and Loops > In regards to randomization, in Logic I'd like to see the ability to > automate the triggering of the randomize button in the soft synths that > include them, like the ES2 and Sculpture. This would not create a > randomization in terms of time, but it would in terms of generated > sound. The ES2 is particularly suited to drastic/surprising change with > the randomize button. The results are not always particularly musical, > but when I'm looking for any degree of 'random' I shouldn't expect it > to be. > I've had a look through the documentation and automation parameters > themselves, and see a great deal of progress in this area, notably, the > inclusion of automation parameters for degree and target of > randomization . I still don't see a way to automate the button press, > though. > I think it would be interesting to create a sequenced piece, and have > it generate a hugely different output each time. > > Also, does anyone know if there is a midi note generator that can > generate notes randomly, within (or not) definable parameters such as > key, length (# of 1/8th notes, for example), # of notes in that length, > a range of duration (meaning sustain), etc. That would be great. > Obviously not entirely random, but a good creative stimulant that > allows you a certain assurance of 'usability'. > > Lastly, a matter of semantics. Now and then I hear discussion involving > 'loops' when it seems that's not really what they mean. To me, until > something repeats - preferably more than once - it's not a loop, it's a > sequence (and there are probably several other words usable instead of > sequence). I'm not generally a stickler for that sort of thing, but I > do wonder what other viewpoints exist out there. > > Have a good day, > Jeff > >