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I am not really qualified to write in-depth reviews on this type of thing, but since I had upgraded to version 10.4 (Tiger), I just thought I'd throw this out there. I installed the Xcode tools, which also included both AU Lab and AULooper. AU Lab is a program similar to Rax, which serves as a host for Audio Units. Very cool. Easy to use and set up, and it's free with the OS upgrade, so you can't beat the price. But the big gun was of course AULooper. After a brief deer-in-headlights look on my face when I first started it up, I started poking around and was quickly comfortable with it. It's midi-assignable, and supports 4 simultaneous loops. These loops don't have to be the same length. You can arbitrarily assign new start points for each independent loop, or globally for all loops. You can change pitch and speed independently of each other. You can sync the midi clock to internal or the host application. All in all, there is a lot of power in there. If you have Tiger, install the Xcode tools included on the installer DVD. Afterwards, AU Lab is located at Developer / Applications / Audio. AULooper is located at Developer / Extras / CoreAudio / AudioUnits / AULooper. Later, Mike __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/learn/mail