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I've battery-busked with various combinations of DL-4 and/or RC20 through a Pignose or a tiny little Smokey amp. By itself, the Pignose is preferable. However, if you use a Smokey to drive a speaker other than the miniature self-contained one, it can sound pretty good too, and surprisingly loud. Also, I remember doing this on separate occasions to see which of the DL4 or RC20 was better on batteries, but I don't remember which one won the contest. As I recall (foggily), either of them was fine for a few hours. The city where I was doing this has an ordinance prohibiting amplified music outdoors (regardless of volume), so I was using acoustic instruments (guitar or sitar) with the amp concealed in a little rucksack, and taking care that the amp's volume was roughly the same as the acoustic instrument's. Of course, the volume pedal and big bright green DL4 with a cable leading into the knapsack would have been a dead giveaway had law enforcement decided to step in. :P -t- __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com