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I have recently discovered some new tricks for the hold delay function on the Vox Tonelab floorboard. Because this is truly a hold delay, and not a looper where you can determine the start and end points, I was at first frustrated that as long as it was engaged, it would continue to build up layers when in hold mode. What I discovered is that I could assign one of the expression pedals to control the amount of input signal I was feeding the hold delay, there by allowing me to keep a simple loop going if I want, or occasionally adding to the loop, and building on it, or releasing the hold function and letting the original loop decay, before adding more to it. One cool by-product is if I strike a chord or note when the expression pedal is in the heal down position, and then go to toe down position, I can create a loop without the attack of the note, great for chord drones and building ambient pads. it is also cool for rhythmic stuff if you keep the delay time on the short side (700-2000 ml seconds) its maximum delay time is 8000 ml seconds. I think this qualifies as a loop tool. it also got me thinking about that specific feature: the ability to assign an expression pedal to control the amount of signal being sent to the looper, and how this might be a feature unique to the tonelab. it also got me thinking that it could be accomplished with a loop that didn't have this feature provide one had a splitter box or stereo output device( stereo chorus box) and a volume pedal placed before the looper in the signal chain with both the looper output, and the secondary ouput both plugged in to the mixer/amplifier. Has anyone out there tried this with an EDP, Repeater DL4, etc? Bill -----Original Message----- From: Doug Cox [mailto:dougcox@pdq.net] Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 7:33 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: It's that time again! 2005 Biennial Looper's Survey Hey Loopers - Happy Thanksgiving to you all. In November of 2003, we did a survey of the LD list members to find out what devices they were using for live looping. It was very informal and pretty disorganized (I think I still have a headache...), but I tallied the results into a spreadsheet and posted a PDF version of those results in the Looper's Delight File Library (http://www.loopers-delight.com/files/). It's now two years later, and I figured it might be time to try it again. This time, we won't clutter up the list (or my brain!) with the responses, but instead I'm preparing an online survey form to capture them. The survey will be anonymous (unlike 2 years ago), but the form WILL use cookies to ensure that surveys are only submitted once. Well, once per computer - but what would really be the point in trying to screw with this survey? :) I'll host the survey, and I give my personal assurances that the data written/read by the cookies will only be used to block multiple submissions. I will NOT provide this information to anyone else, and cannot see the contents of your cookie myself. I've started to prepare the form with the following loopers listed (see bottom). I'll take any suggested additions into the list until Saturday. At that point, I'll post the survey and leave it open for about a month so that we get the maximum number of respondents. You won't be able to "write in" a looper once I post the survey. I will continue to take offline (emailed) requests for off-list loopers after the survey starts, but I will have to add them to the results manually at the end of the survey. So please - take a look at this list and ask me to add anything YOU are using as a looper that is not represented. Part of the fun of this survey is to see what other unusual devices are being used. Finally - last year we had some confusion about what to include in the inventory. Some folks were posting gear that they used for loop *mangling* or pre/post loop effecting. There was also some confusion about "samplers" vs. "live loopers". I propose that: - we do NOT try to inventory effects devices used for per/post loop effects - we do NOT try to inventory units used to playback prerecorded loops or samples Instead, if those things are of interest to others, we can start a new thread and post them - or perhaps I can setup another survey in the (distant) future to capture that data. Here's the list - let me know what needs to be added: *Echoplex Digital Pro Electrix Repeater Line 6 DL-4 Lexicon Jamman Digitech Jamman Kaoss Pad I or II Ableton Live Boomerang (Orig or Plus) Akai Headrush Boss RC-20 (or RC-20XL) Lexicon Vortex Line 6 Echo Pro (Rack) Zoom 2100 Lexicon PCM42 or PCM70 or other Boss DD-3, 5 or 6 Boss DD-20 Boss GT-3, 5, 6 or 8 Digitech RDS 7.6 (or similar, incl PDS series) Max MSP Native Instruments Reaktor Sonic Foundry Acid ZVEX Lofi Loop Junky Lexicon MPX G2 Digitech 2120 or 2112 Eventide Orville, Eclipse (or other) Roland VG8 or VG88 Roland GP100 (or similar) Audiomulch Augustus Loop Mobius Electro Harmonix 16 Second Delay (new or reissue) Radial Ambiloop Maneco Looper (any type) Digitech GNX (any) TC Electronic 2290 Delay DJRND3 (or C-Loops or Peavey Grabber) KYMA TC Electronic D-Two Delay Akai Samplers (any) Roland Samplers (any) Yamaha Samplers (any) Maestro, Roland, Guyatone, etc Tape Echo machine *