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Sorry it took we a while to reply. I was only stating in general terms that I think that manufacturers are missing the boat and a potentially lucrative market by not gearing new looping tools to beginners and educators as well as more tech minded musicians and enthusiasts. I can think of any one of a number of reasons a looper can make an outstanding practice/creative writing tool. Skills in melody, harmony, rhythm ,and style can all be furthered and enhanced with a looping tool provided it is simple to operate and perhaps has some metronome/ beat box built in like the current Boss and digitech stuff. To me its value in this regard is a no brainer. Bill -----Original Message----- From: Warren Sirota [mailto:wsirota@wsdesigns.com] Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 8:12 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Naming a software looper Bill, I don't quite get what would make this a good practice tool. What did you have in mind? BTW, if you didn't know, I'm already in the practice tool business, with SlowGold (www.slowgold.com). I know it's not the same, but it is a cool program. But, frankly, I think there's more juice (and I mean that both in terms of excitement for me and $$) in the creative tools business. I could be wrong about the $$. Warren > -----Original Message----- > From: William Walker [mailto:billwalker@baymoon.com] > Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 5:37 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: RE: Naming a software looper > > > That sounds very cool, do you think it will be simple enough > to market it to students/ teenagers, and beginners as a > practice tool? That is an area I think some company should > address. Making this technology simple enough that it could > help a young music student get better, would open up looping > technology to a whole new market. Here's another name, > Practiceperferct, or PP for short. a product simple enough > for a beginner, but deep enough for a pro. Shudder to think. Bill > > -----Original Message----- > From: Warren Sirota [mailto:wsirota@wsdesigns.com] > Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 1:56 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Naming a software looper > > > Thanks, Stephen. I agree with you that names are important. > That's why I'm struggling with it. > > I had a dream right before I woke up this morning - I don't > remember what the dream was about, but one word was prominent > in it: Helio. It doesn't have anything to do with looping, > but then neither does Ableton (many other products are not > named to reflect their capabilities). A dictionary search > reveals that "Helios" was the god of the sun or something like that. > > So there's one name. Another that I thought of was MultiLoop, > but I'm not sure how well that really reflects anything. I > also thought of "FNEZ Looper" (read it out loud), but that's > a bit on the crude side, I guess. One person I talked to > liked it, someone else cringed. Cringing is not good. > > The things that are most unique about this looper (I think, I > hope) are: > > - instant gratification, easy learning curve > - Can be operated in hands-free mode; works with most > footcontrollers (but a multi-bank footcontroller is best; > basic functions can be in the first bank, advanced functions > in others) > - CD-quality, stereo looping > - loop layers are independently mutable and re-mixable > - built in digital multitrack recorder makes pristine > recordings of your live playing, your loops and aux inputs > (like the people you're playing > with) > - peak limiting on the output. In later versions, different > forms of multiband compression will be supported > - with a touch of your toe (here I go into marketing-speak), > you can save all the loops into individual files for later > processing with Acid or the DAW of your choice. > - PC (XP) and MAC (OS/X) > - affordability - I anticipate 3 versions, one at $89 or so, > one at $199 and one at $299. > - support for VST plugins to modify the input to the looper > and the total mix output > > At present, it's a fairly basic looper/recorder. In addition > to the basic looper, reverse is there, as well as > continuously-varying playback speed, controlled by footpedal > or mouse (the pitch changes, but it's a pretty good effect). > But the architecture is very solid, and I expect to be adding > fancy effects rapidly once I get past the initial hurdles of > documentation, installers, security (I hate dealing with sw > security, but you gotta do it), press releases and all that stuff. > > I put a couple of screenshots up at > www.warrensirota.com/looper so you can get a better idea. > > I'd love naming suggestions suggestions and votes on the ones > I've got: Helio (or Helios) and MultiLoop. > > Thanks, > Warren Sirota > www.warrensirota.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: S V G [mailto:vsyevolod@yahoo.com] > > Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 2:22 PM > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V05 #746 > > > > > > > > Warren, > > > > Naming can be a very powerful thing. Especially if > you are able > > to describe within the name what is unique about the object to be > > named. Secondarily, the name can be pleasant to the ear, > or at least > > memorable. Associations with other products is usually not > > desireable. > > > > When I hear the name AccuLoop, my mind immediately goes to all > > the cheaply designed and built woodworking tools from overseas. > > "Accu" as a prefix, just doesn't instill confidence in a > product, at > > least to this boy. > > > > Naming your looper has the potential to make it or > break it. A > > good example is the software called Chopitch. Does it mean > that your > > chops will start itching? > > > > Good luck finding an appropriate name for it. > > Currently, AccuLoop doesn't do much for me. > > > > Regards, > > > > Stephen > > > > > > > > > > Warren wrote: > > It's a little hard for me to complete the docs, though, > because I'm at > > sea for a name. I'm thinking maybe AccuLoop. Whaddya think? (that, > > totally without an explanation of what makes it special, is not > > exactly an easy question - but whether the name should be > related to > > the specific features or not is also not an easy one). > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! > > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > > > > > > >