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Hi Loopers, I just found this quote on the Loopers-Delight page where all the software loopers are listed: "PC/Mac software doesn't get to be in the real-time category, cause if it runs on MacOS or Windows, it can't honestly be called real-time! It can still be very powerful stuff, though...." I don't understand the quote, its obviously wrong, I do realtime looping since more than a decade with software running on various OSes, mostly OS X now. There must be a debate about it... I am sure I can setup my instrument faster than any looper with more than 2 hardware loop devices. And most hardware devices run software within their own OS. Hardware can even crash... (Kyma is listed as hardware, though its software, the accompanying hardware is called Capybara ;-) Stefan -- [][] [][][] [][] [][][] [][] [][][] [][] [][][] [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] Stefan Tiedje Klanggestalter Electronic Composition & Improvisation /~~~~~\ \\\ /|() ()|\ ))))) )| | |( \\\ /// \ \_/)/ ))))) \___/ /// -------------------------x--- --_____-----------|---------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()--- -- _|_)----|-----()---------- ----------()------------x---- 14, Av. Pr. Franklin Roosevelt, 94320 Thiais, France Phone at CCMIX +33-1-49 77 51 72