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> Kris, > > > if I had been the > > program manager for the development of the unit, I would have done what any > > program manager in marketing would have done with the development of a new > > product, namely conducted a series of focus groups > > Ah! Built in mediocrity. I'd much rather see the result of Bob's vision > unadulterated, than some marketeer's compromise. Please validate your claim. Are saying there is a better and more efficient way to design a product that doesn't involve communicating directly with a decent sample of potential users, documenting the list of features, and then prioritizing them? Have you worked in a future product marketing team? They work hand in hand with R&D. One can't function without the other. > Why do you think the loopers > coming from the big-name companies are so lame? I don't believe I said that, so you'll have to retract your statement. > Focus groups and market-driven > design ... Great Art rarely gets made by committee. Committee? What do you mean? And I did not limit the data collection process to focus groups alone. Product marketing research uses various tools. > And before you ask, yes I work in advertising ... ;-) Advertising and product marketing are two entirely different functions in a corporation. Product maketing is designing the product with R&D even before the proto-type phase, when it is still a concept. I've worked with both. As I said, product marketing folks are the voice of the customer need for R&D. I corpration would have to be comprised of idiots, in my opinion, to design a product with no data on customer need. I don't no of a single corporation who doesn't design products this way. It's the basics of marketing, the Five P's - product, place, promotion, etc... Kris > > Ian Petersen > > >