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Kris Hartung wrote: > I mean, 400 loopers on > LD may have a different perspective on what they want in a looping device > than 10,000 kids round the world. Which has the most potential for >revenue? This is the point for a big company, they want to sell 10,000 units and not just 400. To show a looper device to one of the 400, you need experts as sales persons, which do not exist. To explain a complicated instrument to one of the 10,000 will drive most of the potential customers to the more simplistic competition. The only problem for the big companies is that the big names (musicians) have other needs than the 10,000 would understand... I once asked for a fretless bass with individual outputs for each string. I heard that a famous musician was playing it. They explained to me its not available, it was a custom made version for that musician... We should compare Bob with a crafted guitar/bass maker who has a personal relationship with his customers, not with a mass market company like Ibanez. In the end there is no need to drive Boss to create the ultimate looper. An instrument is a very personal issue, and as long there are instrument builders you will find the one which could build it for you. We need more Bobs, not better marketing/R&D for big companies. (They are quite good already for what they do) When the first Jamman and Echoplex hit the market, almost the same day, I was playing both and was delighted, but in the end I did not buy them. Instead I started to make my own tools myself for my very personal needs and get more than I could have ever imagined. I never wanted to turn my personal instrument into something to sell, it would have to be limited to fit more than just my needs and still keep it simple. Stefan -- [][] [][][] [][] [][][] [][] [][][] [][] [][][] [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] Stefan Tiedje Klanggestalter Electronic Composition & Improvisation /~~~~~\ \\\ /|() ()|\ ))))) )| | |( \\\ /// \ \_/)/ ))))) \___/ /// -------------------------x--- --_____-----------|---------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()--- -- _|_)----|-----()---------- ----------()------------x---- 14, Av. Pr. Franklin Roosevelt, 94320 Thiais, France Phone at CCMIX +33-1-49 77 51 72