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thanks for all the insight everyone has been sharing. this ultimately leads to my followup question: as a musician who is dependent/fascinated by looping, i've always wondered - is it somehow WRONG to have AAAA... structured songs? sure it's entirely subjective, but it's something i've always wondered. a lot of what's out there does seem to have ultimately ridiculously simple song structures or even a two-chord progression, yet i've heard people say that that's not really songwriting but more like soundscaping. can tones and textures do it alone? what do you guys think or what have your audiences been/not been receptive to? i'm very curious about all this as i tend to question myself a lot when i'm composing in the studio, hence much "song"writer's block and limited recorded output :( __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com