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I'll make this quick, Mike, so as to not propagate this thread much longer and use up too much bandwidth. Basically, as you say, this is currently a discussion about which system people prefer. That's an honest and straightforward enough question. I'll grant that. However, I'm advocating at this point that the discussion shift from the "show n' tell" of personal preferences to a pragmatic discussion of how the diverse needs of this community (the ultimate stakeholder here, not one person, I assume) can be met by a single system. After while, the response after response of "I like this, I dislike that" becomes tiresome to me personally, unless it starts to shift to a realistic and workable solution, or at least the idea of one. I can't satisfy you by snapping my fingers and making this system pop out of nowhere, but I can make an observation on the practicality of this thread and suggest a change to something more productive. That's my choice of expression here. If you want to call it brainstorming, fair enough....whatever semantics you want to choose to suggest something mutually beneficial to the community. If I came across as condescending or talking down to you, I apologize, for that was not my intention. I was hoping you'd break through the opacity of my sarcasm, but I guess you don't know me well enough. Carry on...perhaps this can be the world's longest thread and comprehensive categorization of personal preferences on email/web forum systems. K- [massive snip]