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On 4 maj 2006, at 11.04, Jeff Kaiser wrote: > What is cool about this idea is that if the tutorial/toolkit could > be set up in modular sections, so people could build their own > looper easily and add what they needed, tutorials would teach how > to modify it to their specific needs...and the person could ignore > that which they didn't....Sample patches in the tutorials would get > rid of the need to do a lot of the "programming." for example, my > looper was first made by andrew, but then I got in it, saw how it > worked, and modified the interface to fit my needs...the modularity > and modifiability would give us all what we want: more! > > Anyway, this is all just in the idea stage right now. A great idea! I've been holding off from buying MAX for years now, but maybe I won't stand without it much longer... ;-) One issue always was the time needed to cook up a good live looping patch, but with a community interest it may be a quicker process. All the MAX users I've known in the past seemed more interested in Max than in music ;-) but maybe that's just my own false perception based on minimal Max experience? Max is also rather expensive; do you think a good price can be achieved if enough people join up for a "group buy"? > I think one possible answer to this cycle lies in the flexibility > of Max/MSP. Seconded! I have experienced the flexibility of scripting with Mobius and AFAIK Max should be able to do similar things. Things that looks interesting with Max, besides its long tradition of being the main controlling interface for multi media, is the new ReWire compatibility. I also own and love the Pluggo suite, which is know for being developed in Max. I couldn't find any statement at Cycling74's web page on their plans for supporting Universal Binary code (Intel Macs). Anyone know about that? Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast)