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Jeff Kaiser wrote: > hey Andreas, > > Andrew and I had another interesting discussion tonight about this. > We've both been on and off this list over a period of time and note a >... > I think one possible answer to this cycle lies in the flexibility of > Max/MSP. > > Maybe, rather than building a specifically featured looper (which would > have the same problems as the hardware...it would never have EVERY > feature everyone wanted), a specific toolkit/tutorial could be created > that would allow users to more easily focus on this aspect of Max: live > looping. Yes, of course. I wouldn't be interested in some standalone-y app. anyway - I want to tinker. People have had good results doing objects that allow the user to use maxMSP as a higher-level modular; free object libraries such as www.jamoma.org are the way to go, I would say - to make one that's totally centered around looping/recording/retriggering would be a swell thing to do as a community. I know there are experienced Max people on this list that will > say it is all in the tutorials/reference (which it is) but it is spread > out all over the place...unless there is something I have not seen, > which is totally possible. I'm installing jamoma tonight, to see what the fuss is about, but yes, going to www.maxobjects.com and searching for "looping" isn't really what's cool. > Sample patches in the tutorials would get rid of the need to > do a lot of the "programming." for example, my looper was first made by > andrew, but then I got in it, saw how it worked, and modified the > interface to fit my needs... Exactly. Tuts. And lots of them, with examples. > > As Lao Tzu said, "Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach > him how to fish and you feed him for a lifetime." Yes indeed, and I'm a firm believer in that, but to be honest, a lot of the max-ochists take it too far - Heaven only knows how many loop-recorders have been designed from scratch over the years, reinventing the wheel is such a bore. If I had a solid platform to start with I wouldn't have to spend countless hours building basic functionality in there. sigh. A.