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Thanks for even increased clarity, Per. Yes, that's how I've been doing it up until this time. One further question, forgive my ignorance. What do you mean by " a great dub delay set-up"? All best, Todd PS. Don't know where you are in Sweden, but have you heard yet of a guy named Walter Thompson, or of something called Soundpainting?? On 6/22/06 7:30 PM, "Per Boysen" <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote: > On 22 jun 2006, at 21.33, Todd Reynolds wrote: > >> Thanks to both of you. It's perfectly clear. >> >> I've just been trying to find a better way to use multiple ouputs >> in live >> without bussing through return tracks.... > > Sorry, have to add a short comment here: I actually like using the > Return Tracks for that. The reason is that this opens up for bringing > those (physical output transfer) Return Tracks also as Audio Track > inputs for the purpose of doing real-time live recording of separate > outputs, tracks or submixes of tracks. Bernhard and I did that last > year in Zürich and we were able to also incorporate a stereo track of > his entire looping rig as an input on one Live Track. If you do that, > just remember to delete all clip slots on the recording tracks for > all scenes you are using in Live to trigger anything. Or you will by > accident stop the recording. > > Another good thing to know is that any track in live can use the > output setting "Sends Only". This means that whatever you rout > through that track is not sent to the master channel and by the Aux > Send knobs you have full control over how much of the signal to send > to each Return Track. And then you have the freedom to route those > Return Tracks anywhere - heck , you may even route a Return Track's > output back into itself! (do that through a delay set to no direct > signal, only "wet", so you won't cause digital audio feedback. Makes > for a great dub delay set-up) > >> To my knowledge there is no better way than that... I thought that >> perhaps >> it should be possible to have the input for an audio track be the >> master >> out, but I guess that is avoided because of the obvious chaos which >> could >> ensue if that routing was mismanaged. > > Correct! N00bs would melt down their sound cards and American Lawyers > would be suing Ableton all day because there were no warning sticker > on the product's package cover ;-) > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) > http://www.myspace.com/looproom > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- ³Virtue is just repression waiting to go bad² - Trevor Exter ³Classical music is related to the past more than it is related to the creative part of sound² - Ornette Coleman ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ Todd Reynolds 42-09 47th Ave 1C Sunnyside, NY 11104 Ph. 718 392-3773 Mob. 917 576-6166 Fax 419 781-5502 http://www.toddreynolds.com todd@toddreynolds.com 9175766166@vtext.com (155 characters or less) AIM ID: toddreyn