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Hmm....gotta google that, it's what I've heard informally for some time but now ya got my back 'gainst the wall. This is probably the strongest support for my wayward claim (in fact, this posits two-five years...): http://computerworld.com/hardwaretopics/storage/story/0,10801,107607,00.html Here's some other articles that don't make such claims, in fact say that cdr's could last 100 years or even more with optimal conditions, but in less than ideal conditions could just last a year or two (which is somewhat more consistent with my own experience, I've had lots of problems with burned discs from five years ago or less). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CD-R http://www.clir.org/PUBS/reports/pub121/sec4.html Ultimately, the technology hasn't been around long enough for us to know for sure, so I should probably keep my mouth (more) shut. With tape, we have more history to go by. I'd be curious what others have heard and experienced. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com > ...most people say audio cds have a life of ten years, > > Says who? > >> though cdr's are known to often go bad sooner. > > ditto > > Can you cite any studies/evidence? > > Jeff