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Hey Daryl, thought you might like this effect ;). Actually, when I tested loads of free VSTs a few years ago, I came upon this: http://andreas.smartelectronix.com/index.php?nav=1 look for "sloper", but judging from the description, "relofter" will be something similar. Also, Scrubber on this page http://dunk.smartelectronix.com/ seems to do something like it (but I haven't checked it). Rainer > Per, thanks for this info. I had actually wrote, then > scrapped, an email to LD a few months ago asking whether this > technique was possible using any kind of current technology. > I thought it was some brilliant idea I had come up > with!...now I see it's been around forever (in computer