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Now, here is my tone example (not a song, just me looping the A section of "Black Orpheus"and soloing over the top): - Guitar running directly into my ThinkPad T60p sound card (just the stock soundcard and ASIO for All driver), no preamp - Sound card into Max/MSP patch - MAX/MSP patch with only the free Boogex amp VST and my max reverb patch (no other effects or patches) And to add some comedy to the clip, I recorded this with my mini guitar, a 1/2 size Epi "Roadie" solid body electric, with a '57 reissue humbucker (from my ES-335), shown here: http://www.krispenhartung.com/gear/epi.jpg Here is the clip, complete with clams and blemishes: http://www.box.net/shared/static/8ougz31hkk.mp3 Now, I actually think this tone is halfway decent, given the clean and warm jazz tone I after, and given that I'm not even using a real amp, just a VST, and using no preamp or "botique" external audio interface. My next test will be when I get my Fireface 400. If I see a major improvement, I may be good to go. We'll see. Bottom line, for guys wanting to get a traditional jazz tone, I think there is hope for doing that withh the laptop and decent audio intereface....and a mini solid body electric to boot! :) Imagine that. I could do a standards jazz gig with a mini guitar...seems ridiculous, but doable. I might get a lot of laughs. Kris ----- Original Message ----- >> Please don't take it as self promotion but I would like Kris to listen >to >> "Su Me" or "with Mr. Lawson" and tell me if he finds a sterile and >crappy >> tone in the guitars there. >> http://myspace.com/lucaformentini > > Nice clips! Some good effects and textures going on here. > > "With Mr. Lawson" - guitar direct to FF400 to effects > > Comments: I think the guitar sounds very good, given what you are doing > with the piece, and > how you are complimenting what Lawson is doing. However, I could not >play > a gig with > that tone. It is far too thin and transparent. I'd venture to say that >the > original tone doesn't > have enough color (tambre) for my taste, but I can't differentiate it >from > the effected mix, > unfortunately. Again, I like what you have done here, so please don't >take > my comments > the wrong way; it's just not a desireable tone for the music I play and > tone I want from my > guitar as sound source. So, bravo on the clip. > > "Sue Me" - guitar to Mesa Boogie Studio Preamp to audio card. No effects > > Comments: Who is playing what? :) Is this all guitar, or is there bass >in > there? > I can't comment on the guitar part with the sustainer, because it is > distorted, and > I don't play with much distortion. But the tone is decent, as I would > expect from > the Boogie. In fact, I'm quite certain if you altered the settings on >the > Boogie, that > you could get a good clean jazz tone that I like. But, again, this test > isn't applicable > to my original objection of direct guitar tone. I'd consider using the > Boogie Formula > pre-amp (what Bill Walker is using) now if it weren't a full rack space. > The clean > guitar in the background (or is that a bass playing high) is good for >this > song too, but > too thin for my taste. Again, not about you, but my own taste. > > Hey, let's just clear things up. Someone send me a clip of a solid body > electric guitar running > directly into a mixer board or audio interface, just reveb, and going >into > a recorder, that is > even in the ballpark (approxmiation) of the guitar in these clips, and > I'll perk up. > > This is Lorne Lofkey, one of my favortie guitar players on the planet. >He > plays a solid body Ibenez guitar. > > http://www.lornelofsky.com/audio/allthings.mp3 (All the Things You Are) > http://www.lornelofsky.com/audio/witchcraft.mp3 (Witchcraft) > > Fuckin' beautiful! I love Lorne. What a freakin' monster. BTW, I've >spoken > to Lorne, and he's using > a SS amps on these...those old Yamaho Solid State amps...G series or > somethig like that. > > Here is another example: > > http://www.artofliferecords.com/tedgreene.html (Ted Green, solid body > guitar) > > Cheers, > > Kris > > > >> I am sorry I can't put any tracks of the new album ( which is scheduled >> for release Oct. the 2nd) on line because there there is going to be a >> very wide assortment of different sounds made with the same system. >> As I said in my first post, maybe I am crazy, but I am in love with the >> sound I can get going direct to audio card or with a preamp between the >> audio card and the guitar ( and no speaker emulators at all). >> >> Anyway, to everyone its own, and to everyone the chance to set his own >> limits. >> >> my best, >> luca >> www.unguitar.com >> >> Krispen Hartung wrote: >> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "andy butler" >>> <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> >>> >>>> >>>> A third option would be to use a dedicated instrument DI input. >>>> >>>> A mixer line level input isn't designed to have a guitar plugged >>>> straight into it, >>>> even if there's enough gain the tone is affected by the impedance >>>> mismatch. >>>> >>>> andy butler >>> >>> >>> But what will be the real audible result to the output? Better >frequency >>> range? >>> Less noise? Better dynamic range? More clarity? Essentially, enhancing >>> the tone that I don't >>> like to begin with. :) Now if that little DI is adding a nice Fender >>> Tweed or Boogie tube tone, with >>> some subtle breakup, a variable response to how hard I pick, etc. then >>> now we're talking....more like fantasizing. >>> >>> Kris >>> >>> >>> >>> __________ Informazione NOD32 2489 (20070828) __________ >>> >>> Questo messaggio è stato controllato dal Sistema Antivirus NOD32 >>> http://www.nod32.it >>> >>> >>> >> >
