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I can see both sides of the "Evil Behringer discussion," but this example may not support your argument On 10/4/07, Goddard, Duncan <goddard.duncan@mtvne.com> wrote: > so uli doesn't have to pay for R&D or industrial design except on a very > few product lines that are unique (apparently) to behringer, e.g. the > fcb1010. > Actually, it seems as though the innards of the Behringer pedals are completely different than their visual twins. According to the blog "What they've presumably done is create a basic digital effects circuit (not too different from the Digital Stompbox). Every pedal probably has the same innards, with a different ROM chip, different knobs and a different colour box." That is very different from Reverse Engineering, and is in fact quite similar to the way Ikea operates. As an aside, I just bought an Ikea bedside dresser thing the other day for $35. It was marked "Made in Denmark" on the side. It says something when you can pay Danish workers comfortable wages, good benefits and ship the thing to the US, sell it for $35 and still make a profit. Maybe the end of the world isn't quite so near : ) -- Art Simon simart@null.net http://art.simon.tripod.com http://www.myspace.com/artsimon