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On 13 nov 2007, at 21.50, Sjaak wrote: > I program synths sounds, so BPF, LPF, HPF, notch etc are familiar > terms. I understood your message, no problem :) Imo, resonating > filters in a feedback loop is one of my favourite type of effects. > You don't hear a lot in a live setup these days. You're right about that! But I think that's not because people in general tend to not like it - I think it's because many musicians just don't know about using that sound. After all, it is a sound color that sound good in a context, when blending in with other sounds. Some new musicians "work hard on their patches" by listening to the patch and tweaking them. What that method leads to is a bunch of sounds that each one sounds so full that they kind of equal out most musical dynamics when used together. If you are stuck in that "Single Super Patch Limbo" you really need someone to show you the laws of blending different sound sources - you won't find out just by accident. Experienced musicians, music engineers and producers develop a kind of "imaginative multi layered hearing" with time that lets them hear a single sound as "what it is lacking"; i.e. what areas that particular sound will leave open in the mix for some other sound to occupy. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://www.youtube.com/pellibox (gritty)