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That's all true but those are more timing differences (when they were made). Any used Oberheim and/or white faced Gibson you find on the market could potentially have max memory and Loop IV. You just need to find out ahead of time. If it doesn't have Loop IV, you can order it yourself. You need to weigh the costs though and make sure that you're still getting a good deal with the added OS upgrade cost figured in. Glenn From: phillip wilson [mailto:phillwilson@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 10:08 AM To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Oberheim/Gibson? My way of understanding the life of the EDP is this my original Oberheim shipped with 4 1mb ram modules for a total of 12 seconds of loops and loop v3.32 then my gibson white (beige) model .. this has shipped with the memory at its maximum amount and mine came with loop v3.5 finally the blackfaces gibsons, this units came with max memory and with loop4 pre-installed at to buying on the used market, i would say if you are thinking of getting more then one, go for the newer models as there are known synchronisation problems between some older obi units and the newer gibsons. as for syncing between black and white gibsons, that's always been fine for me. On a more personal note, I have been having ,as you may have read, troubles between my units of late...however Iwould very very strongly still endorse the unit as the most creative tool I have at my disposal (even more then the creativity generated by my instrument on its own). There are people on this list who have worked hard to provide me with this tool and I tip my hat to a very respectful angle towards them for creating such a musical tool. get one...it will change your life!! Phill MyOneManBand > From: glenn.poorman@autodesk.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 05:45:05 -0800 > Subject: RE: Oberheim/Gibson? > > Not really much difference at all. > > The colors don't differentiate Gibson from Oberheim. Many of the Gibson > models were still white and identical except for the company name. The > black means it's the "Pro" version that Gibson introduced. I believe the > only difference is that the Pro version has a CE rating. > > Glenn > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ricky Graham [mailto:rock.guitar.guru@btinternet.com] > Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 10:36 AM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Oberheim/Gibson? > > Hi Guys, > > Please excuse my ignorance, but i'm hoping to invest in an echoplex for >the > first time this week and I was hoping that you might be able to tell me >if > there is a great deal of difference between the oberheim (white) and >gibson > (black) models? > > Thanks very much for your help! > > Ricky > ________________________________________ Messenger on the move. Text MSN to 63463 now!