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Hey Stephen thanx now we are talkin! I wasnīt luck enough to have gone through all of those great analog and now obscure digital rackmount boxes everybody is looking for now days,so this is why i am curious about them.There is a recent revival of all of this analog echo simulators and i would be interested in knowing if they can sonically replace those units.Ive also heard and read that those first digital units had latency drawbacks when changing patches, heating problems,and offcourse now getting replacement parts for them doesnt make them to attractive to get. So for those who are luck to own or have tried them,which would be the coolest sci-fi rackmount echo reverb delay unit from these ones? which hardware units on the market would replace them,or are they still irreplaceable and worth getting? Korg SDD2000 Sampling delay Roland 501 space echo Roland SRE-555 echo chorus delay Roland SDE 330 Roland SDE1000 Digital delay Roland SDE3000 Digital delay Sony DPS D7 MXR Digital Delay Blue Face Rack mount Ibanez DM 1000 Digital Delay Effects Ibanez DM 1100 Digital Delay Effects Deltalab Effectron II Digital Delay DIGITECH 3.6 Digital Delay DOD D12 Digital loop delay deltalab adm 2048 super timeline delay Lexicon PCM42 TESLA studio echo - vintage tape delay 70s SPACE Klark Teknik 716 digital delay TC.2290 feel free to add! cheers Luis --- Wavecomputer360 <wavecomputer360@gmx.de> wrote: > Hi Luis, > > the SDE-330 is a very nice-sounding delay with a lot > going for it (I think > the big selling point was it having the 3D > algorithms of the fabled RSS > unit). The bad thing is, itīs not very > straightforward to use, you can tweak > more parametres than you would actually want to > tweak (but nowhere near as > many as on the Sony DPS-D7, though). Thereīs a lot > of stuff that requires > proper reading, and this is what keeps me from using > it as a simple delay. > Also, some of the more complex delays and some of > the 3D stuff tends to > produce some phase cancellation artefacts which I > find slightly unnerving > because thereīs always this type of comb filter > effect on the delays. > Sometimes too many options can be a nightmare, > especially when you just want > a stereo delay that is simple to use... > > The SRV-330 is a very good-sounding reverb processor > with some of the > algorithms of the R-880. Same thing here, you can > tweak yourself to death > but the results are generally worth it. Especially > the chorused reverb > washes sound very nice. I have both units, the > SDE-330 and the SRV-330, in > my live rack. > > Stephen > > ____________________________________________________________________ > > "Ambition makes you look pretty ugly, kicking > squealing Gucci little piggy." > (Thom Yorke/Radiohead -- "Paranoid Android") > > Finally available: Stephen Parsick -- Traces of the > Past Redux, reissued > with three previously unreleased bonus tracks. > > Itīs out: [īramp] & markus reuter -- "ceasing to > exist", a gorgeous dark > ambient album. available through our webshop at > www.doombient.com > > For info and audio, please visit the official > [īramp] website at > www.doombient.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "L.A. Angulo" <labaloops@yahoo.com> > To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> > Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 11:23 PM > Subject: Re: qualities of reverb > > > > Thanx jeff,i was specially interested in the > Roland > > SDE-330, i did read the HC review which is quite > short > > but wanted to hear it from loopers.I am also > > interested in new units that have the shimmer > synth > > like effect like the old digitech dhp units ( i > > thinkthe edge uses one)and i believe they had up > to a > > 5 part harmony,do any of the new units(except > > eventide)have that cool effect? > > cheers > > Luis > > > > > > > > --- Jeff Duke <echohead@embarqmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Harmony Central is always good ; > > > > > > > > > http://reviews.harmony-central.com/reviews/Effects/product/Roland/SDE-330+Dimensional+Space+Delay/10/1 > > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/2ohnt8 > > > > > > I just googled it. > > > > > > > > > http://www.google.com/search?q=Roland+SDE+space+delay+&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GWYE > > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/2q2puz > > > > > > > > > > > > peace > > > Jeff > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "L.A. Angulo" <labaloops@yahoo.com> > > > To: "Loopers Delight" > > > <loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com> > > > Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 5:45 AM > > > Subject: Re: qualities of reverb > > > > > > > > > > what about the old Roland SDE space delay and > korg > > > > proccessors,there were so many different > models > > > > anybody has experience with those units or a > > > website > > > > where i can read about them? > > > > Luis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Tilmann Dehnhard <tilmann@dehnhard.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > >> yes, i also remember that reverb... > > > >> it was looooooooooooooooooooooooong... > > > >> > > > >> tilmann > > > >> > > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > > >> From: "Rick Walker" <looppool@cruzio.com> > > > >> To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" > > > >> <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> > > > >> Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 12:54 PM > > > >> Subject: RE: qualities of reverb > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Duncan Goddard mentioned a trick with his > > > trusty > > > >> microverb: > > > >> > > > > >> > Which reminded me: > > > >> > > > > >> > The Alesis Midverb 2 had an infinite reverb > in > > > it > > > >> that was just amazing. > > > >> > (patch #32 if memory serves) > > > >> > > > > >> > Eventually I had to upgrade my reverbs > (with > > > more > > > >> Alesis and finally > > > >> > Lexicons) > > > >> > but I have never heard an infinite reverb > > > setting > > > >> that was so musical as > > > >> > that > > > >> > old archaic unit. One of my favorite > tricks > > > when > > > >> I was first doing lop > > > >> > > > > >> > The rest of the verbs were pretty pathetic, > > > >> unfortuanately and the Alesis > > > >> > gear > > > >> > just doesn't seem to last very long. > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________ > ________ > > > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home > page. > > > > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > > > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: > 269.21.3/1306 - > > > Release Date: 3/1/2008 > > > > 5:41 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > === message truncated === www.myspace.com/luisangulocom ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. 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