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So using loops within hardware is ok, but using loops with a computer (Ableton?) is not? On May 19, 2008, at 6:14 AM, Goddard, Duncan wrote: > agreed, daryl. shut your eyes & listen to a CD of what they used to > sound like.... if you have another CD player & a disc of "club > interior-night-time" sound effects, you could almost be at a gig. > > I put the dull repetitive stuff in a sequencer, & write patches with a > bit of random life in them (to emulate analogue synths, for > instance, I > send random modulations to the pitch & filter, while tiny > variations in > the note-on timing liven up the sequences a bit. this is all possible > within the old emu modules). we use pre-recorded loops because we're a > three-piece, & thus only have six hands. selfishly, we keep the most > interesting parts to ourselves, & use the loopers (repeater, RC-1 > amongst others) for loops that were once improvised but have since > become integral to a composition. > > playing CDs (or using a computer, IMO- our sequencers are hardware, & > more akin to drumboxes) is dishonest & furthermore, is asking for > trouble of a technical nature. but that's just my opinion. :-) > > > > >>> This may be the subtlest snark I've ever read. > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > >> I saw Cluster last night at the Detroit Institute of the Arts and >> nearly all their sounds were prerecorded. They each had a >> synthesizer, but those were seldom used. Most of the sounds came >> from > their four CD players. >> >> But it was not "just press play and sit back". You could see >> Rodelius > >> flipping through his CD collection, deciding which disc to slip in > next. >> >> But if you closed your eyes, it sounded like the music they used to >> make with a room full of gear. > > > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE > > This e-mail (and any attached files) is confidential and protected by > copyright (and other intellectual property rights). If you are not the > intended recipient please e-mail the sender and then delete the > email and > any attached files immediately. Any further use or dissemination is > prohibited. > > While MTV Networks Europe has taken steps to ensure that this email > and > any attachments are virus free, it is your responsibility to ensure > that > this message and any attachments are virus free and do not affect your > systems / data. > > Communicating by email is not 100% secure and carries risks such as > delay, > data corruption, non-delivery, wrongful interception and unauthorised > amendment. If you communicate with us by e-mail, you acknowledge and > assume these risks, and you agree to take appropriate measures to > minimise > these risks when e-mailing us. > > MTV Networks International, MTV Networks UK & Ireland, Greenhouse, > Nickelodeon Viacom Consumer Products, VBSi, Viacom Brand Solutions > International and Comedy Central are all trading names of MTV Networks > Europe. MTV Networks Europe is a partnership between MTV Networks > Europe > Inc. and Viacom Networks Europe Inc. Address for service in Great > Britain > is UK House, 180 Oxford Street, London W1D 1DS, UK. >