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there were more acts which the majority would put into the "music that no-one likes" category than acts in the "jazz" category. This catagory decribing experimntal music as "Musc that no-one likes" I have found most amuzing, not to point of asphixiation , but close. perhaps an audience conducting breathwork sureing "music noone likes" concerts will help the average audience hear better.. I am often confronted with remarks from the music eminating from my speakers at home....hehe...I read a phrse in an electronic mag earlier today..."Its noise...But I like it" was the title of a glitch roientated vst article. On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 2:46 PM, Byron Howell <howell.byron@gmail.com> wrote: > For that matter, more than breathing; importance lies in a conscious > communication with the unconscious movements of life. > > . As cage puts (I think) it silence is but all the sounds that we > filter out unconsciously. Seeing movement and music as one ad the > same, our unconscious movements of the body would be the movement > equivalent of silence in cages sense. the breath being the first place > to start > > f course breathing is as an important thing to work as one's instrument. > I am practicing martial arts for about 35 years and in that case... > > Having practiced fire poi, staff and juggling movements for some time, > i do attribute most of the forced awareness of my breath to that art. > Breath or die kind of thing. Im sure you wouldve had the same > experience in buddha sit for 5 minutes the first time > > I forget to breath and "awakes" because lacking air. > > Indeed, captivated by my instrument so I would be slightly breathing > in a very short shallow tyoe of way through a 2 hour death metal > performance. Unfortunatly when one is captivated into this "State" , > the not breathing ultimately puts a stressor on the adrenal glands and > on all the muslces in performing,( which in the case of a drumset play > is... pretty much the whole body.) Functioning for long in this state > is liket long slow asphyxiation. perhaps the wind instrument players > wont have this problem t the same degree as say piano players or > drumers, because the breath is so part of the process. Piano plaers or > drummers can still pay notes without having to take a deep breath. so > easy to get stuck in a shallow breathing pattern for long periods. In > my case it was to long with to vigorous a music. > > > This a rather more important thing to work on than many may thinks > because of this "new age" talk... > > Yes. the "new age" contributed to placing a thick layer of melted > cheese onto investigating breathing > > > Was thinking along the "experimental" lines and thought about a > situation where in the score/ Live llop improvisation it be written > that the audience needs to join in a specif slow breathing pattern (A > simple 2 bar loop) to relax them into the tempo of the track and > experience it on a more subtle level. and perhaps conducting the > breathing throughout the piece and gettting a 6/8 breath > going....(Ok...new agey,perhaps, and way to much coordination and > crowd interaction :) > > the audience breathes the band....unfortunatly one would have to a > weekend workshop with the common audience first. sounds like way to > much work.... > > Byron > > > > On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 2:08 PM, Nevyn Nowhere <nevynnowhere@gmail.com> >wrote: >> Breathing consciously is important for more than just music... but any >> aspect of life. >> >> For that matter, more than breathing; importance lies in a conscious >> communication with the unconscious movements of life. >> >> Isn't that what (some) music is? To a degree, at least. >> >> -nn >> www.happyhumans.org >> >> On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 4:00 AM, o. malhomme @ laposte. net >> <o.malhomme@laposte.net> wrote: >>> >>> Of course breathing is as an important thing to work as one's >instrument. >>> I am practicing martial arts for about 35 years and in that case, >>> uneffective breathing is immediately felt as lack of endurance, >injuries and >>> so on. >>> >>> And I must admit, for all my experience in that area, that when I play >>> guitar, it arrives that so taken by what I'm doing, I forget to breath >and >>> "awakes" because lacking air. Or it arrives also that I will swallow my >>> saliva to wrong way and end in chokes. >>> >>> This a rather more important thing to work on than many may thinks >because >>> of this "new age" talk... >>> >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Olivier Malhomme >>> >>> >>> Le 8 nov. 08, à 12:39, Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.com a >>> écrit : >>> >>>> >>>>> From: "Byron Howell" <howell.byron@gmail.com> >>>>> Subject: Re: OT: Music books that transcend technique...(was Re: >>>>> semi-OT: i recommend Victor Wooten's book) >>>>> >>>>> I teach & practice T'ai Chi, which uses breathing as one of the >>>>> elements to bring about relaxation. Since I have found so much >benefit >>>>> for myself, I am wanting to share >>>>> this with others. I have played with the idea of doing local >>>>> workshops. >>>>> >>>>> A workshop like that is most needed. If I were anywhere near, i would >>>>> support. I primarily came to looping through an injury which >prevented >>>>> me fro pursuing drum-set practice and gigging. <snip> >>>>> >>>>> The main aspect of my drumming that really sped up the injury was my >>>>> complete lack of awareness for my breath. Now that i have focused on >>>>> my breathing patterns i notice how really hard it is to keep a steady >>>>> pace while playing. My playing goes all wonky. Its like practicing >new >>>>> breed excercises. The breath becomes the fifth limb. lately i have >>>>> begun starting my practice sessions by syncing my playing to my >>>>> breathing and vice versa. >>>>> >>>>> now that i am in the process of resetting my spine, i find that >>>>> failing to breath properly always ends up in some type of tension >>>>> somewhere in the body. Once you become hyper aware, its kinda a curse >>>>> tho...one ends up spending hours eliminating tension in the body in >>>>> order to play a note that not many notes get played hehe...but for >>>>> ultimate freedom of any injury its a nessesary process. musicians >>>>> playing freely now, should incorporate this aspect to make sure your >>>>> still doing so in 10 to 20 years. At age 26, I discovered very early >>>>> the perrels of improper breathing. >>>>> <snip> >> >> >