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I'll take it one step further. Farting is just as important as breathing. I practice farting, a lot. On stage it can clear the area immediately around me from drunks, pretty girls, and other distractions. Leaving me to focus 100% on my solitude and music. Its really beautiful. On Nov 8, 2008, at 7:54 AM, Byron Howell wrote: > there were more acts which the majority would put into > the "music that no-one likes" category than acts in the "jazz" > category. > > This catagory decribing experimntal music as "Musc that no-one likes" > I have found most amuzing, not to point of asphixiation , but close. > > perhaps an audience conducting breathwork sureing "music noone likes" > concerts will help the average audience hear better.. > > I am often confronted with remarks from the music eminating from my > speakers at home....hehe...I read a phrse in an electronic mag earlier > today..."Its noise...But I like it" was the title of a glitch > roientated vst article. > > > > On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 2:46 PM, Byron Howell > <howell.byron@gmail.com> wrote: >> For that matter, more than breathing; importance lies in a conscious >> communication with the unconscious movements of life. >> >> . As cage puts (I think) it silence is but all the sounds that we >> filter out unconsciously. Seeing movement and music as one ad the >> same, our unconscious movements of the body would be the movement >> equivalent of silence in cages sense. the breath being the first >> place >> to start >> >> f course breathing is as an important thing to work as one's >> instrument. >> I am practicing martial arts for about 35 years and in that case... >> >> Having practiced fire poi, staff and juggling movements for some >> time, >> i do attribute most of the forced awareness of my breath to that art. >> Breath or die kind of thing. Im sure you wouldve had the same >> experience in buddha sit for 5 minutes the first time >> >> I forget to breath and "awakes" because lacking air. >> >> Indeed, captivated by my instrument so I would be slightly breathing >> in a very short shallow tyoe of way through a 2 hour death metal >> performance. Unfortunatly when one is captivated into this "State" , >> the not breathing ultimately puts a stressor on the adrenal glands >> and >> on all the muslces in performing,( which in the case of a drumset >> play >> is... pretty much the whole body.) Functioning for long in this state >> is liket long slow asphyxiation. perhaps the wind instrument players >> wont have this problem t the same degree as say piano players or >> drumers, because the breath is so part of the process. Piano >> plaers or >> drummers can still pay notes without having to take a deep breath. so >> easy to get stuck in a shallow breathing pattern for long periods. In >> my case it was to long with to vigorous a music. >> >> >> This a rather more important thing to work on than many may thinks >> because of this "new age" talk... >> >> Yes. the "new age" contributed to placing a thick layer of melted >> cheese onto investigating breathing >> >> >> Was thinking along the "experimental" lines and thought about a >> situation where in the score/ Live llop improvisation it be written >> that the audience needs to join in a specif slow breathing pattern (A >> simple 2 bar loop) to relax them into the tempo of the track and >> experience it on a more subtle level. and perhaps conducting the >> breathing throughout the piece and gettting a 6/8 breath >> going....(Ok...new agey,perhaps, and way to much coordination and >> crowd interaction :) >> >> the audience breathes the band....unfortunatly one would have to a >> weekend workshop with the common audience first. sounds like way to >> much work.... >> >> Byron >> >> >> >> On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 2:08 PM, Nevyn Nowhere >> <nevynnowhere@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Breathing consciously is important for more than just music... >>> but any >>> aspect of life. >>> >>> For that matter, more than breathing; importance lies in a conscious >>> communication with the unconscious movements of life. >>> >>> Isn't that what (some) music is? To a degree, at least. >>> >>> -nn >>> www.happyhumans.org >>> >>> On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 4:00 AM, o. malhomme @ laposte. net >>> <o.malhomme@laposte.net> wrote: >>>> >>>> Of course breathing is as an important thing to work as one's >>>> instrument. >>>> I am practicing martial arts for about 35 years and in that case, >>>> uneffective breathing is immediately felt as lack of endurance, >>>> injuries and >>>> so on. >>>> >>>> And I must admit, for all my experience in that area, that when >>>> I play >>>> guitar, it arrives that so taken by what I'm doing, I forget to >>>> breath and >>>> "awakes" because lacking air. Or it arrives also that I will >>>> swallow my >>>> saliva to wrong way and end in chokes. >>>> >>>> This a rather more important thing to work on than many may >>>> thinks because >>>> of this "new age" talk... >>>> >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> Olivier Malhomme >>>> >>>> >>>> Le 8 nov. 08, à 12:39, Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers- >>>> delight.com a >>>> écrit : >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> From: "Byron Howell" <howell.byron@gmail.com> >>>>>> Subject: Re: OT: Music books that transcend technique...(was Re: >>>>>> semi-OT: i recommend Victor Wooten's book) >>>>>> >>>>>> I teach & practice T'ai Chi, which uses breathing as one of the >>>>>> elements to bring about relaxation. Since I have found so much >>>>>> benefit >>>>>> for myself, I am wanting to share >>>>>> this with others. I have played with the idea of doing local >>>>>> workshops. >>>>>> >>>>>> A workshop like that is most needed. If I were anywhere near, >>>>>> i would >>>>>> support. I primarily came to looping through an injury which >>>>>> prevented >>>>>> me fro pursuing drum-set practice and gigging. <snip> >>>>>> >>>>>> The main aspect of my drumming that really sped up the injury >>>>>> was my >>>>>> complete lack of awareness for my breath. Now that i have >>>>>> focused on >>>>>> my breathing patterns i notice how really hard it is to keep a >>>>>> steady >>>>>> pace while playing. My playing goes all wonky. Its like >>>>>> practicing new >>>>>> breed excercises. The breath becomes the fifth limb. lately i >>>>>> have >>>>>> begun starting my practice sessions by syncing my playing to my >>>>>> breathing and vice versa. >>>>>> >>>>>> now that i am in the process of resetting my spine, i find that >>>>>> failing to breath properly always ends up in some type of tension >>>>>> somewhere in the body. Once you become hyper aware, its kinda >>>>>> a curse >>>>>> tho...one ends up spending hours eliminating tension in the >>>>>> body in >>>>>> order to play a note that not many notes get played hehe...but >>>>>> for >>>>>> ultimate freedom of any injury its a nessesary process. musicians >>>>>> playing freely now, should incorporate this aspect to make >>>>>> sure your >>>>>> still doing so in 10 to 20 years. At age 26, I discovered very >>>>>> early >>>>>> the perrels of improper breathing. >>>>>> <snip> >>> >>> >> >