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Thanks for the kind words Buzap, you may be right about the definition of the term "beat boxing", I use that description for lack of a better one, to describe what I've been doing for a while to create percussive grooves with my hands on the strings. You are correct that the switches on the M-13 can be rather loud, but part of that is the somewhat caveman intensity with which I'm hitting the buttons. Any plunger style switch like this can be finessed to sound quieter. The Gordius is quieter than the M-13, and has such sensitive switches that if one where to very lightly touch the switches, they can be engaged with very little mechanical noise at all. That being said, If someone where to be very force full hitting the switches, there would be some clicking noise. Even Roland and behringer switches will exhibit mechanical noise if you hit them hard enough. What you where hearing was me rather over zealously stomping on the switches. I guess the slippers didn't help, better move to stocking feet ala' Andy Butler. ;-) Bill -----Original Message----- From: Buzap Buzap [mailto:buzap@gmx.net] Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 5:02 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: youtube M13 and looperlative demos Hi Bill I both enjoyed the music and found the explanations insightful. Really like your sound and the journey you take the listener through the evolving sound. Just two things: - In my understanding "beatboxing" refers only to creating beats with your voice. - I found the foot pedal (M13 I think) quite loud during the quite part. Since I usually have the mic open also when looping other stuff, I find this quite annoying and have returned a pedal once just for this. Is the Gordius also the same noise level? Would be too pedal cause I cannot use such FX pedals/midi pedals when playing quite music with open mic... Anyway, thank you very much for the videos! Buzap -- NUR NOCH BIS 31.01.! GMX FreeDSL - Telefonanschluss + DSL für nur 16,37 EURO/mtl.!* http://dsl.gmx.de/?ac=OM.AD.PD003K11308T4569a