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Hi Jeff, Thanks for answering. Here's one reason why the ability to send some message on each cycle would be cool: suppose I want to bring in a beat synced to the loop only after I've layed down a few overdubs. How will I (or any sw agent for me) know when a cycle might start? I might check out the Wait Cycle script possibility that you mention, although I haven't played with scripts yet and am just getting my feet wet in the other capabilities of Mobius and this setup, so something that's "awkward" by your description might be a little much for me right now. More likely, for the present: i'll arrange for a drum loop (possibly in Live) to be triggered by the Start cmd, but i'll start it muted. then it should stay synced and be there when i'm ready to un-mute. Thanks, Warren On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Jeffrey Larson <jeff@zonemobius.com> wrote: > >> 1) Mobius sends out a Start message when the first playback of the >> first loop starts, but it doesn't appear to send out any particular >> message at the start of a loop cycle. So if you don't catch that Start >> message, all you have to hold on to is a series of Clock messages. > > Mobius out sync (copied from the EDP) is biased toward things that > follow the MIDI transport control commands, mainly drum machines > and sequencers. I'm finishing up a feature that lets you > send arbitrary MIDI commands from scripts, in theory you > could write a script that ends the recording and sends > a MIDI note command to Ultrabeat at the same time. Ultrabeat > then presumably ignores the Start but follows the clocks. > > If Ultrabeat can follow clocks without drifting then you shouldn't > need an extra MIDI message on every cycle. We have however > found several interesting use cases for "event scripts" over > the years, scripts that are called automatically when certain > things happen (loop, cycle, subcycle boundaries) rather than > when pressing a switch. You can sort of do that with "Wait cycle" > statements in scripts but it's awkward. That might be an option > depending on what you want to do on cycle boundaries. > > Jeff > > -- Warren http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6679 http://www.warrensirota.com