Re: Early bird loopers with Live?

[Matthias Grob <matilists@gmail.com>]

Jeff,
you would have a hard time to copy my way of rounding with your way to  
store samples.
I know its a challenge for you. And it must be possible...
but from my point of view, you could leave this one alone for my loop  
plug, its very mine.
you have been very successful in copying every other function, some of  
which I could not really call mine, because the ideas came from  
fellows on this list...
and... its even more challenging to add more new stuff, no?

:-)
Matthias

On 6 Apr 2009, at 12:55, Jeff Larson wrote:

> [andy]
>> You don't have to wait for the on-beat when recording with a synced  
>> EDP.
>> You just have to wait for the EDP to gain sync, then you can start
>> recording at any point.
>> Looperlative does the same trick afaik.
>> Surely Mobius too??
>
> I think this is an area where I diverged without knowing it.  When
> using the slave sync modes Mobius recording behaves similar to
> quantization.  If you have SyncMode=HostBar for example, a 4/4
> timesig, and you press record at beat 2, it will wait two beats before
> starting the recording.  This seemed consistent to me since I almost
> always have quantiziation on and I'm accustomed to pressing switches a
> little ahead of the beat.  In other words, it's like the "first loop"
> is in the drum machine and recording behaves like
> NextLoop/SwitchQuant=Cycle/AutoRecord=On.
>
> If I understand correctly, the EDP does a sort of "round off" at the
> end rather than quantizing the beginning.  You start recording
> immediately and the ending is delayed to make the loop be an even
> multiple of the beat/bar.  I can see this being nice if you want to
> start with lead in notes that sustain over the loop start point.  If
> that's correct wouldn't the loop technically be out of alignment with
> the drum machine?  If you wanted to retrigger from the start you would
> have to make another pass and set the loop start point to light up
> with the drum machine's downbeat.
>
> I like both, maybe someway they're will be another mode, because there
> just aren't enough switches and knobs yet :-)
>
> BTW, this seems like the same philosophical misunderstanding that
> makes Mobius' unquantized remultiply suck out loud compared to the
> EDP.  I really got unquantized rounding wrong....
>
>
> Jeff
>