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well. considering it like that, you also don't get any fifth, if the seven step is scaled from the fourth, which was the major third. instead, you get the secret major seventh again!... lacking the fifth as i said, but this is the less important note of a seventh chord ... eh, from where i should count now the +11 ... time to go out to have an ice cream! any recommendations? 2009/7/26, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>: > On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Raul Bonell<raul.bonell@gmail.com> >wrote: >> even taking as starting point a simply 7th chord. > > I understood Margret's post as talking in "steps", as equalling half > notes, or frets on a guitar. By that view the seventh step is simply > the fifth, not a 7th chord. And when transposed by "eleven steps" it > becomes adds in for a MINUS NINE CHORD... (or -13 as voiced and called > in jazz) - wow, I missed that in my last post. Maybe not precisely "a > blobby cluster" but definitely a somewhat dissonant chord, maybe going > for "fluffy" if played light with a not too fat sound! We'll have the > major third, fifth, maj7 and in the upper octave half note above > octave (-13) and minor third. > > per > > -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com