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Gareth Whittock wrote: > What's the difference between echoloop and mobius guys? Echoloop is totally based on the EDP, but with stereo loops. For multitrack use it's possible to simply use more than one plugin. (and to use midi to select which plugin you wish to control). There's a number of other improvements too. as yet, Echoloop is still in the Beta stage of development. Mobius was originally conceived as an edp clone, but long ago went it's own way. The way Mobius handles memory is different to the EDP/Echoloop at a very fundamental level, so it could never have been an accurate emulation...but then with years of subsequent development based on user suggestions it really doesn't need to be. afaik Multiply in Mobius isn't quite a copy of the one in the EDP, and no doubt there's other differences in the way that "EDP named" functions work if you look hard enough. andy