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Ed Durbrow schrieb: > That doesn't sound too bad, if it is just a matter of choosing a > command from a menu. > What about on hardware loopers? Do most? some? few? offer these features? I have to admit, I can't give you precise statistics, only those things I know directly or have been studying somewhat: As for the first feature (from record directly to overdub): Things that can do it: EDP (of course), Line6 DL4 (and I would assume the M9, M13 and HD500 as well), Electrix Repeater newer software versions (they didn't have that in the initial release) and anything that is a delay used as a looper (so the Boss DD20 in delay mode can do it). Things that can't: EH SMM w/Hazari, first version of Akai headrush, Boss DD20 in looper ("Sound on Sound") mode. Don't know about all the Boss RC devices - perhaps somebody else can offer info. For the second feature (auto-starting record when going to a new loop). I didn't ask specifically whether you meant that you want to record a new loop and keep the old one (so as to be able to return to it later), or start a new loop and discard the old one. So I'm gonna split this in two parts ("keep" and "replace"): keep: Things that can do it: EDP (configurable), DD20 (in delay mode - well, sort of). Things that can't: everything which doesn't offer multiple loops obviously, Electrix Repeater. replace: Things that can do it: EDP, DD20 (in delay mode - well, sort of). Things that can't: Line6 DL4 (unless you can live with first stopping the running loop and then immediately start recording), EH SMM w/Hazari. So, list members: care to complete this list, please? > That is great. I can see there are some very knowledgeable people > here. BTW is there any tutorial or manual anywhere online for Mobius? > It is pretty daunting. Of course, there's the official documentation: http://www.circularlabs.com/documentation/documentation.html But I'm sure that some list members here have done some "getting started" guides (in a more basic fashion) as well. > Yes, good point. It depends on what you mean by experienced. :-) As > you can see I'm very new to looping but I have some experience with > audio/midi in a home recording studio environment. I've seen > discussion about midi sync and so on but I have no experience with it > as far as looping goes. I can only imagine it is a good thing. Just had a look at your studio page - from that, it seems that you are in fact somewhat experienced. One thing that changes with doing live processing with a computer as opposed to using it as a recorder/console is that the audio interface chain's latency becomes a factor. There are several options regarding mobile audio/MIDI interfaces which work fine. Personally, I use a TC Konnekt24D (which finally has advanced to a point where the driver SW can be called acceptable). Everything by RME Audio is usually a safe bet, and from what I heard, the same is true for most MOTU interfaces. For something more in the low-price range, both I and others here have good experiences with the Presonus Firebox. But, as I usuallly say, just write down your exact requirements, and then choose... Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs