Re: KP3+FCB1010 vs. DD20+KP3

[Charlie M <pilotcp@gmail.com>]

All good advice--i guess the main question I am asking is if I should use the KP3's looper function or should I use a separate looper to put in front of the KP3? I want to mangle the sound, and the KP3 seems like the tool I want, but it kinda seems like I am missing out on a lot of what the KP3 can do if I just use it for the looper.

Charlie

On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Dennis Moser <sinsofmachaut@gmail.com> wrote:

That would be *WHO can address ...

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On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Dennis Moser <sinsofmachaut@gmail.com> wrote:
> There are a number of folks on here whop can address the issue of
> using two DD-20's, either in serial or parallel. Given their
> availability on eBay, I'd highly recommend investigating their use in
> your application. It's been discussed here before, so you should be
> able to look through the archives, as well.
>
> And it's all about signal routing anyway...
>
> Good luck and best,
>
> Dennis
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> On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 10:41 AM, Mark Hamburg <mark@grubmah.com> wrote:
>> On Jun 17, 2011, at 11:06 AM, Charlie M wrote:
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>>> My other thought was to just get a looper, like the DD20 (i need a delay pedal anyways) and use it for the start/stopping of loops and then just use the KP3 to mangle. two positives of this is that I have a cool new delay pedal, and also I can use all the KP3 effects, and not just the looper+FX patches. The negative is more money to spend, and more batteries/power supplies to deal with.
>>
>> I've similarly thought about the DD-20 as a nice little pedal that gets good reviews as a looper though that said I gather most people loop with it in long delay mode and it lacks a hold function. Still it could be a good choice for building up a loop and then letting it fade away by bypassing the effect but letting the loop play on. (Which actually is a hold effect if you set feedback to 100% but then you have other issues if you do want to evolve the loop...)
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>> The downside I have since realized to the simple looper + mangler is that some of these pedals (DD-20, Line6 M9/13) won't let you mute the input which means that the input signal is also getting mangled. That can be addressed with still more pedals to do the appropriate routing, but it starts to get pretty messy particularly if you want a stereo signal flow. Still, based on reports elsewhere on this list, it seems like one could have a lot of fun with two DD-20s plus a mangler of some sort (e.g., KP3, SL-20, etc).
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>> Mark
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