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Well-said, Mark … the lag/lack of efficiency from using a GI-20 to get MIDI into a synth module isn't hideous (haven't really objectively tested it) and suspect it's about on par with going straight to a GR-1 or GR-20 (I've run both). And using the VG-8 is about the same. So the idea of getting some floor space back by not having both a GR-1 AND a VG-8 would be nice (I'd still use a US-20 to split things off to the GI-20 — I LIKE having a full-blown synth module being driven by the guitar …). Anders, do you see why now? Best, Dennis http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 4:51 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote: > Yeah you are missing a few things Anders. > > Firstly, there are very few 12 string pickups like the GK2 and 3 to > choose > from, there Rolan and Axon (an one more I believe) Both need a machine to > plug into, No, its not midi coming out of that pickup... yet. The guitar > synth is the bit that will do that for you, and in a large way is the bit > that can affect the tracking and response of the midi information. From > that > box you CAN connect to a synth, but in my experience there has been a > greater lag and even less response. > > The OTHER hex route is the VG style boxes. > > The reasone why we are all getting hot under the collar about the GR55 is > that its the first box to combine both systems. > So convenience... I think that is what this synth seems to offer. > > Personally if I can use it for rudimentory guitar sounds (distortions and > reverbs) as well as the synth stuff, it frees up some space in the rack > for > more weirdness... > > <anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com> wrote: > I can see anuy knobs on the gr55 that allows for fun realtime > manipulations > of LFO's, filters and other fun stuff.. > > er.. it has a pedal? > > :-)) > > M > > > > On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 12:38 AM, Anders Bergdahl > <anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> Why would one want a guitar synth and not an MIDI interface to any of >> the >> many great synths out there... I can see anuy knobs on the gr55 that >> allows >> for fun realtime manipulations of LFO's, filters and other fun stuff.. >> Or am I missing something.. >> >> ________________________________ >> From: billwalker@baymoon.com >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Subject: Re: Roland gr55 >> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 15:31:37 -0700 >> >> Also Sprach Mark >> >> Quite interesting read Hans, actually most are a little disappointed >> with >> the sounds. Im not too bothered by that tho, cos Ive never had a synth >> that >> did have good presets. My trusty GR30 took years to get to what I have >> now >> 10 usable patches. And back to arps... What is with that? On the Gr 30 >> there >> was this amazing Arpegiator, that is a staple for me, I use it >> everyday, and >> Ive still yet to try the Walker repeater trick (due to needing 2 midi >> merge >> boxes to do it). >> I couldn't agree more though I haven't used mine in sometime, the >> gr30's >> arpeggiator and what it could do to drive my repeater was totally >> responsible for some of the things I was doing 7 years ago. All the >> impossible to play arpeggio stuff was using the gr as an arp trigger >> for the >> repeater, to make single note samples behave polyphonically with a wild >> natural portamento between notes, however limited the sound engine was >> the >> arpeggiator did and still does kick ass, simple to program easy to use. >> Re >> GR55, I will investigate further but I believe you are right, any >> arpeggiation is patch specific and non programmable. Haven't had much >> time >> on one personally, they have trickled in and sold quickly. >> Bill > > > -- > Mark Francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe >