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I understand what I do is barely looping and I really like to use this list to keep my thumb on the pulse of what real loopers do. My first example is a song I've done called Goody Titanic Shoes. Occasionally I'll hear a song that starts with one instrument. I will quickly loop that opening phrase. This example it's the ubiquitous opening drum beat to Adam Ant's Goody Two Shoes. I do this on the fly and if my timing isnt spot on perfect a train wreck ensues. I got me a great drum line to base a song around. This case the song is that Celine Dion song from Titanic. It's surprising how adding a better drum beat and banjo will do to a love song. That's not looping but it's hard to do and funny as hell. The other song that would not fall into the category of live.looping is my cover of Bad Religions Stranger Than Fiction. I was always very reluctant to do it live because the beat was such a hyper 2/4 beat it was just easier to pull a "Taj Mahal" and sing, or "beat box"(is that the correct term), the drum part. I would love to do this song due to its 4-part harmony loop I would sing on the fly , but I was reluctant to play it due to the cheesy mouth drums. I have recently did a decent approximation of my mouth drums by beating abd slapping my banjo head. I may YouTube me doing it either way. I can do the mouth drums faster and the song sounds better really fast. Both examples are interesting but I would hardly call the Former live looping; funny yes. The latter I just don't know which way to approach the drums. Turn it into a C&W song with my banjo drums or leave it more "punky" and do it with mouth drums. Chaz Worm - singer, bass, banjo Earth, Worm, &, Fire and Electric Light Opry http://chazworm.com http://YouTube.com/ChazWorm On Nov 7, 2011, at 10:35 AM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote: > agreed, Andy, well said! > > rick > > > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Per Boysen wrote: >> Excellent write-up! :-) >> >> Per >> >> >> >> On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 10:59 AM, andy butler<akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> >> wrote: >>> Way back long ago Looper's Delight folk were happy >>> to talk about "looping". >>> >>> LD was set up as as place to share *all kinds of loop music*. >>> As far as I know it still is that, there's a lot of live loop >>> people here but in a decade or so I only read one or two posts >>> that said canned loops were not music ( and not for many years now). >>> >>> So when the community started organising "Festivals of Looping" >>> and didn't invite anyone that used pre-recorded loop it was firmly >>> pointed >>> out that this was a misrepresentation >>> of the term "looping". >>> >>> After that the term "live looping" started to be used for events, >>> open to anyone as long as live looping technology played a significant >>> part in their performance. >>> >>> So the whole point of the term was to distinguish between different >>> looping >>> approaches, and it was adopted because >>> there were objections to the use of the term "looping" in that context. >>> >>> >>> A few years down the line it became apparent that the new technology >>> was giving rise to some interesting new musics, stuff that just >>> wouldn't >>> happen without the technology. >>> Some of us call that "livelooping music", or simply use the term >>> "livelooping" >>> in the context of describing the music. >>> There isn't any intention to define what the technique of live looping >>> is >>> hidden in that, why on earth would there there be? >>> (and some may notice a typographic clue to confirm that). >>> >>> >>> >>> There plainly isn't any authoritative body that's going to tell you >>> what to >>> call your music, or to say whether you "do live looping". >>> >>> There's no division between insiders who "do live looping" and >>> outsiders >>> who don't. >>> >>> There's just free individuals who can call their music whatever they >>> like, play it with whatever technology they like, and have any opinion >>> they >>> fancy about the music they hear. >>> >>> andy butler >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >