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Why not change the note message to a program change message and remap. Betcha it works then. Sent from my iPod On 13 Apr 2012, at 05:57, Kevin Cheli-Colando <billowhead@gmail.com> wrote: > Well, this is getting embarrassing but I will press on to ask again > anyway. > > I can get the midi to work running Mobius as a stand alone. Record > starts recording and plays as expected when stopped. > > But when I go into Live, the recording always does that 1 second and > reset thing. I thought I tried all the things suggested (and I do > have it set up as described below) but I can't figure out what is > going on. Anyone want to take pity on a simpleton and walk me through > the steps of configuring Live and Mobius to play nicely together. I > feel like I'm missing something obvious but don't know how to track it > down. I guess its fair to say I know enough to cause trouble but > don't really quite understand exactly what I'm doing. > > I'd be happy to read a manual but I can't even seem to find the > solution to the problem I'm facing in the manual or forums (though > Jeff's manual does mention the long press reset problem but seems to > assume I would then know how to solve that issue). > > Round three anyone? > > Kevin > > > > On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 10:38 AM, Phil Clevenger > <phil.clevenger@gmail.com> wrote: >> I am thinking we (and by "we" I think I mean Per and Ricky G) solved the >> problem by routing MIDI directly to the plug-in via a MIDI track in >> Ableton, >> rather than trusting Ableton to deliver the message. >> >> >> So - Set up an empty MIDI channel, and set up an Audio channel. Place >> the >> plug-in in the Audio channel. In the MIDI channel route the "MIDI From" >> from >> the audio interface (and filter channel if need be) and route the "MIDI >> To" >> to the plug-in channel, and subsequently to the plug-in itself within >> that >> channel. >> >> >> This should ensure the plug-in is hearing what is being sent, and not >> being >> munged by Ableton. >> >> >> I will check this out this evening when I get back to my studio and let >> you >> know. >> >> >> Phil :) >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 10:19 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> >> wrote: >>> >>> It's also typical behaviour for when the Note-Off doesn't reach >>> the Echoloop. >>> >>> It seems that Ableton suppresses Note-Off on some (all?) routings. >>> >>> andy >>> >>> >>> Per Boysen wrote: >>>> >>>> When using any third-party plugin hosted in Live there are three ways >>>> external MIDI control surface gear can talk to the plugin: >>>> >>>> 1) As MIDI Track Input through Live (activate/deactivate in Live's >>>> Preferences, MIDI/Sync tab). >>>> 2) As Remote control through Live (activate/deactivate in Live's >>>> Preferences, MIDI/Sync tab). >>>> 3) Third-party plugin set to listen directly to the system's MIDI >>>> Port. >>>> >>>> The issue with the looper killing itself on Record is typical when >>>> more than one of the above control systems are active (as Jeff >>>> explained). >>>> >>>> I have tried all three for looper plugins and with Mobius I stick to >>>> "3". Not because it is better but because it makes my jumping between >>>> many alternative host applications very smooth. "1" is also easy once >>>> you have set the MIDI bindings in Mobius. In order to make "2" work >>>> with Mobius one needs to first go into Mobius and chose which >>>> parameters the plugin shall expose to the host and then use Ableton's >>>> internal system (VST or AU protocol) to set up the mapping in Live. >>>> The "Abes" recommend this method. >>>> >>>> Greetings from Sweden >>>> >>>> Per Boysen >>>> www.perboysen.com >>>> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 9:47 AM, Phil Clevenger >>>> <phil.clevenger@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Wow that's weird, just this evening I have been wrestling with the >>>>> exact >>>>> same behavior, but with Echoloop within Live. All Echoloop functions >>>>> are >>>>> mapped and respond fine, but pressing the LG controller button bound >>>>> to >>>>> Echoloop's Record function results in a short bit of Record time, >>>>> followed >>>>> by a reset. So it seems to interpret the NoteOn as a long press. >>>>> >>>>> Had it working some time back - encountered this problem then as >>>>> well, >>>>> but somehow solved it, and now cannot recall the solution - gah ! >>>>> >>>>> Phil >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Apr 11, 2012, at 10:42 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Okay, so anyone thinks I should take this to the Mobius forums >>>>>> that's >>>>>> cool, but.... >>>>>> >>>>>> So thanks to Jeff's advice I got Mobius running in live and even >>>>>> managed to configure the layout of the FCB1010 for most functions. >>>>>> Every command I programmed worked EXCEPT, when I press the button >>>>>> bound to the record function, it goes into record for 4 counts and >>>>>> then stops. I've confirmed that the pedal is sending Note on and >>>>>> off >>>>>> with a value of 01. >>>>>> >>>>>> Apologies if I'm missing the obvious, it certainly wouldn't be the >>>>>> first time. I hope to get this figured out before I get annoying >>>>>> with >>>>>> these questions. >>>>>> >>>>>> Any pointers? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> >>>>>> Kevin >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to >>>>>> have a >>>>>> form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all >>>>>> trouble. >>>>>> >>>>>> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) >>>>>> >>>>>> Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org >>>>>> Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> > > > > -- > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all > trouble. > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org > Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos >