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You are correct, Ableton likes notes and CCs only. I had thought the Ableton feature I described (Program, Bank, Sub-Bank params) could be a workaround. Else, not sure one can recall Echoloop presets in Ableton :) Phil :) On Jul 27, 2012, at 12:48 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > Hey, Phil - did you say PROGRAMME CHANGE! Oh my... A tiny purple > creature at the back of my brain whispers something about Live not > supporting MIDI Program Change events. Maybe you should check that > with a search on the Live forum, I never use Program Change in Live so > I have no hands-on experience of my own on this. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen > > > On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 9:43 PM, Phil Clevenger > <phil.clevenger@gmail.com> wrote: >> True enough, but that said, I've not been able to succeed in Ableton to >> recall Echoloop presets via Program Change, even though I have >> succeeded to save named presets for such recall. >> >> My understanding is that these presets are attached to Program Changes >> 1 thru 15. >> >> The only method I've found in Ableton to approach that is by the Bank, >> SubBank, and Program params in the Notes panel for any MIDI clip, but >> Echoloop does not respond to these as far as I can tell. >> >> Phil :) >> >> >> >> >> On Jul 27, 2012, at 12:04 PM, andy butler wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> Phil Clevenger wrote: >>>> Ahh sure Mark that's relatively easy :) >>> >>> In this respect at least >>> it's just like any other VST plugin, using standard VST presets. >>> >>> (just with the addition of recall via ProgCh). >>> >>> andy >>> >> >