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Fascinating and astute thread! It's also interesting that many religious experiences, from communal to personal, have some type of rhythm and repetition to them (and they're often tied into bodily rhythms/repetitions.) Thanks!! Mike www.michaelplishka.com www.scribbledmusings.com www.zenstorming.com -----Original Message----- From: Philip [mailto:philip.ojc@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 5:06 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Repetition I think the concept of repetition = boring is mistaken. Repetition defines the human (and most other forms of life) existence. Heartbeats, breaths, days and nights, waking and sleeping, work, recreation, procreation...everything we do--even the fun stuff--is repetitive. People rarely complain that it is boring to breathe or that night and day is monotonous. Perhaps that is due to the fact that we perceive developments or a purpose or a desired end makes the repetition meaningful. I enjoy listening to repetitive loops because I can usually expect that the performer will be adding a bit here and there and/or is ultimately working toward some kind of goal or an ending. If a performer just looped the same bar over and over, it would be boring to me. Even a complex one--as soon as I got my head around it, I would be wanting and waiting for them to work with it or develop it in some way or another. ...my $.02