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Well, think also about the work of Grotowski and Eugenio Barba in Theatre.
They were working with the concept of repetition and fatigue. Ok, this is something a bit different, but still another interesting point of view on repetition: they believed (and for the few I can say, I proved it true, as I studied and practiced theatre) that a long training was the best way to break the defenses of the ego. Normally when you train/rehearse, your mind is there, your ego, critic, active, invasive, judging, saying no and yes, repressing, limiting. There is a point, when you work with fatigue, where you feel tired, you would like to stop, you can't anymore. THere is where the real training STARTS. You are tired, your mind is not active anymore, you are just body and intuition, open, receptive. I believe with music can be the same. But I also believe that it is not so easy to achieve, in concerts. I mean especially, to achieve that people stay enough to perceive the change after their judging mind stop saying them "this is a boring piece of s... go away". :) Who likes "we did it again" by Soft Machine? Starting from the title, I find it pure genious. Ser now, let's go dancing repetitive techno... > From: mike@michaelplishka.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: RE: Repetition > Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 13:06:33 -0500 > > Fascinating and astute thread! > > It's also interesting that many religious experiences, from communal to > personal, have some type of rhythm and repetition to them (and they're often > tied into bodily rhythms/repetitions.) > > Thanks!! > > > Mike > > > www.michaelplishka.com > www.scribbledmusings.com > www.zenstorming.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Philip [mailto:philip.ojc@gmail.com] > Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 5:06 AM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: Repetition > > I think the concept of repetition = boring is mistaken. Repetition defines > the human (and most other forms of life) existence. Heartbeats, breaths, > days and nights, waking and sleeping, work, recreation, > procreation...everything we do--even the fun stuff--is repetitive. > > People rarely complain that it is boring to breathe or that night and day is > monotonous. Perhaps that is due to the fact that we perceive developments or > a purpose or a desired end makes the repetition meaningful. > > I enjoy listening to repetitive loops because I can usually expect that the > performer will be adding a bit here and there and/or is ultimately working > toward some kind of goal or an ending. > > If a performer just looped the same bar over and over, it would be boring to > me. Even a complex one--as soon as I got my head around it, I would be > wanting and waiting for them to work with it or develop it in some way or > another. > > ....my $.02 > |