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It has a user mode which allows you to tweak to your heart's content. Or call me at 917.576.6166 (or text) On Mar 7, 2013, at 3:40 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote: > Unfortunately I can't go, but it would be great to see a MIDI > implementation chart for Push. I've learned from the Abe forum that > Push is not programable so it would be awesome just to know exactly > what CC#s are sent out from the different knobs and ribbon. Knowing > that one could estimate how useful Push would be for generic > electronics control. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen > > > On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Amy Lee <amy@jumpingrobot.com> wrote: >> <plug> :) >> >> I know members of this list span the globe, but for those who are in >> the San >> Francisco area I am trying to book a special presentation of Push for >> the >> April gathering of the San Francisco Electronic Music Meetup >> (http://meetup.com/sf-emm). I'll know more in a couple of days >> (hopefully). >> >> If there are certain things people want a demo of, I can put that >> request to >> the presenter. :) >> >> Amy >> >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> @mark, >>> >>> If you connect a USB cable to a laptop running Live 9.x it does indeed >>> "work like that". It actually lets you control the Live application >>> from the pad, very much like an extension of the well known Roland TR >>> step sequencing concept. >>> >>> But I'm more interested in simply playing MIDI notes from it, just >>> like any MIDI piano keyboard - but with a smarter chromatic keyboard >>> layout. In order to do that you only need to open a virtual instrument >>> in whatever laptop application picking up at the other end of the USB >>> cable. Practically no tweaking at all. >>> >>> If you want to use it to control a custom looping rig you may very >>> well there will of course be a lot of mapping and tweaking. Maybe you >>> were actually talking only about this third alternative? >>> >>> But for using it as an instrument that plays >>> >>> Greetings from Sweden >>> >>> Per Boysen >>> www.perboysen.com >>> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 8:58 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> >>> wrote: >>>> Jesus Christ.. Does it work like that out of the box? I think not... ! >>>> Can you imagine the hellish days and days of fiddly little assigning >>>> and >>>> mapping and tweaking... Looks so much like a job... not fun at all! >>>> >>>> I bet they sell a lot based on the lights tho... vewwy vewwy pweeedy! >>>> I might get one just to go on the wall! >>>> >>>> Mark >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Philip Conway >>>> <Philip.Conway@bristol.ac.uk> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I pre-ordered Push yesterday. It's a sizable lump of money for a >>>>> controller - especially one that I haven't been able to try out first >>>>> hand - >>>>> but I couldn't resist the introductory offer. It'll be here in just >>>>> 12-14 >>>>> weeks!... >>>>> >>>>> I'm quite excited about its potential as an instrument. One >>>>> appealing >>>>> thing is that, if the early reviews are to be believed, it is very >>>>> well >>>>> made >>>>> and feels heavy and solid. This is no small thing for a musical >>>>> instrument. >>>>> It's much easier to 'lose yourself' and get into 'the zone', as they >>>>> say, if >>>>> you're playing something that just feels solid and high quality, >>>>> rather >>>>> than >>>>> flimsy and plasticy. And, for me, whether or not you can 'lose >>>>> yourself' in >>>>> an instrument is ultimately the marker of whether it's any good or >>>>> not. >>>>> >>>>> In many ways Push makes much more sense than a traditional keyboard >>>>> for >>>>> performing and composing electronic music since it allows any scalar >>>>> mapping >>>>> of notes and makes that mapping intuitive by providing visual >>>>> feedback. >>>>> In >>>>> this way it seems to let the player find relationships between notes >>>>> and >>>>> sounds that don't rigidly adhere to the c-major scale structure of >>>>> the >>>>> piano-style keyboard. >>>>> >>>>> This is how it should be for electronic music, which is not being >>>>> limited >>>>> to the physical mechanisms of objects like the piano. The piano >>>>> keyboard >>>>> was an elegant invention but it resulted to some degree from the >>>>> physical >>>>> requirements of whacking strings with little hammers. Electronic >>>>> music >>>>> is >>>>> completely free from such physical connections but, with some >>>>> expensive >>>>> exceptions (e.g. the Haken Continuum), instrument or interface design >>>>> has >>>>> lagged a long way behind what programmers and sound designers have >>>>> achieved. >>>>> >>>>> Push looks like a step in the right direction in that respect. It's >>>>> not >>>>> revolutionary in concept but it appears to have been very well done - >>>>> at >>>>> least I hope so! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Philip. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --On 07 March 2013 12:15 +0100 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 2:36 AM, michael noble <looplog@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.weareroli.com/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Anyone know anything more about this company or the controller? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Looks cool, like a "piano submarine" :-) A little thin on >>>>>> information >>>>>> that page, isn't it? From the video it seems as notes are located in >>>>>> linear way, similar to a piano? >>>>>> >>>>>> I must say I'm more intrigued by Ableton's new instrument Push, due >>>>>> to >>>>>> its non linear location of notes. The chromatic scale layout on Push >>>>>> is based on rows differing by a fourths and this creates what to me >>>>>> seems to very playable note locations. In fact, the hand patterns >>>>>> are >>>>>> the same as if tapping a fourths tuned fretted string instrument. >>>>>> Another aspect I like with the Push is that some notes appear at >>>>>> several positions and can be played in unison but with different >>>>>> attack/expression, this too in common with fretted string >>>>>> instruments. >>>>>> >>>>>> I've been using an Akai EWI4000s for some years and think it is the >>>>>> most (musically) expressive MIDI controller instruments I've come >>>>>> across. Since it is based on breath control rather than >>>>>> hitting-something-with-a-hand velocity it a challenge to program >>>>>> good >>>>>> synth patches to play. I think Yamaha was great in the 80s with >>>>>> breath >>>>>> control but since then not much product development seems to have >>>>>> happend im this area. THat's odd, thinking about how a simple hose >>>>>> to >>>>>> blow into increases the expressiveness of any simple keyboard. >>>>>> >>>>>> Greetings from Sweden >>>>>> >>>>>> Per Boysen >>>>>> www.perboysen.com >>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Mark Francombe >>>> www.markfrancombe.com >>>> www.ordoabkhao.com >>>> http://vimeo.com/user825094 >>>> http://www.looop.no >>>> twitter @markfrancombe >>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ >>> >> >