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Here's a first drawing: http://julienbayle.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/UserMode_fromPush.png Ben -------------------------------------------------- Todd Reynolds <toddreyn@gmail.com> wrote: (08/03/2013 00:22) > It has a user mode which allows you to tweak to your heart's content. > > Or call me at 917.576.6166 (or text) > > On Mar 7, 2013, at 3:40 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Unfortunately I can't go, but it would be great to see a MIDI > > implementation chart for Push. I've learned from the Abe forum that > > Push is not programable so it would be awesome just to know exactly > > what CC#s are sent out from the different knobs and ribbon. Knowing > > that one could estimate how useful Push would be for generic > > electronics control. > > > > Greetings from Sweden > > > > Per Boysen > > www.perboysen.com > > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Amy Lee <amy@jumpingrobot.com> wrote: > >> <plug> :) > >> > >> I know members of this list span the globe, but for those who are in > >> the San > >> Francisco area I am trying to book a special presentation of Push for > >> the > >> April gathering of the San Francisco Electronic Music Meetup > >> (http://meetup.com/sf-emm). I'll know more in a couple of days > >> (hopefully). > >> > >> If there are certain things people want a demo of, I can put that > >> request to > >> the presenter. :) > >> > >> Amy > >> > >> > >> > >> On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> @mark, > >>> > >>> If you connect a USB cable to a laptop running Live 9.x it does > >>> indeed > >>> "work like that". It actually lets you control the Live application > >>> from the pad, very much like an extension of the well known Roland TR > >>> step sequencing concept. > >>> > >>> But I'm more interested in simply playing MIDI notes from it, just > >>> like any MIDI piano keyboard - but with a smarter chromatic keyboard > >>> layout. In order to do that you only need to open a virtual > >>> instrument > >>> in whatever laptop application picking up at the other end of the USB > >>> cable. Practically no tweaking at all. > >>> > >>> If you want to use it to control a custom looping rig you may very > >>> well there will of course be a lot of mapping and tweaking. Maybe you > >>> were actually talking only about this third alternative? > >>> > >>> But for using it as an instrument that plays > >>> > >>> Greetings from Sweden > >>> > >>> Per Boysen > >>> www.perboysen.com > >>> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen > >>> > >>> > >>> On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 8:58 PM, mark francombe > >>> <mark@markfrancombe.com> > >>> wrote: > >>>> Jesus Christ.. Does it work like that out of the box? I think > >>>> not... ! > >>>> Can you imagine the hellish days and days of fiddly little > >>>> assigning and > >>>> mapping and tweaking... Looks so much like a job... not fun at all! > >>>> > >>>> I bet they sell a lot based on the lights tho... vewwy vewwy > >>>> pweeedy! > >>>> I might get one just to go on the wall! > >>>> > >>>> Mark > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Philip Conway > >>>> <Philip.Conway@bristol.ac.uk> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> I pre-ordered Push yesterday. It's a sizable lump of money for a > >>>>> controller - especially one that I haven't been able to try out > >>>>> first > >>>>> hand - > >>>>> but I couldn't resist the introductory offer. It'll be here in > >>>>> just > >>>>> 12-14 > >>>>> weeks!... > >>>>> > >>>>> I'm quite excited about its potential as an instrument. One > >>>>> appealing > >>>>> thing is that, if the early reviews are to be believed, it is very > >>>>> well > >>>>> made > >>>>> and feels heavy and solid. This is no small thing for a musical > >>>>> instrument. > >>>>> It's much easier to 'lose yourself' and get into 'the zone', as > >>>>> they > >>>>> say, if > >>>>> you're playing something that just feels solid and high quality, > >>>>> rather > >>>>> than > >>>>> flimsy and plasticy. And, for me, whether or not you can 'lose > >>>>> yourself' in > >>>>> an instrument is ultimately the marker of whether it's any good or > >>>>> not.. > >>>>> > >>>>> In many ways Push makes much more sense than a traditional > >>>>> keyboard for > >>>>> performing and composing electronic music since it allows any > >>>>> scalar > >>>>> mapping > >>>>> of notes and makes that mapping intuitive by providing visual > >>>>> feedback.. > >>>>> In > >>>>> this way it seems to let the player find relationships between > >>>>> notes > >>>>> and > >>>>> sounds that don't rigidly adhere to the c-major scale structure of > >>>>> the > >>>>> piano-style keyboard. > >>>>> > >>>>> This is how it should be for electronic music, which is not being > >>>>> limited > >>>>> to the physical mechanisms of objects like the piano. The piano > >>>>> keyboard > >>>>> was an elegant invention but it resulted to some degree from the > >>>>> physical > >>>>> requirements of whacking strings with little hammers. Electronic > >>>>> music > >>>>> is > >>>>> completely free from such physical connections but, with some > >>>>> expensive > >>>>> exceptions (e.g. the Haken Continuum), instrument or interface > >>>>> design > >>>>> has > >>>>> lagged a long way behind what programmers and sound designers have > >>>>> achieved. > >>>>> > >>>>> Push looks like a step in the right direction in that respect. > >>>>> It's > >>>>> not > >>>>> revolutionary in concept but it appears to have been very well > >>>>> done - > >>>>> at > >>>>> least I hope so! > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Philip. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> --On 07 March 2013 12:15 +0100 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 2:36 AM, michael noble <looplog@gmail.com> > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> http://www.weareroli.com/ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Anyone know anything more about this company or the controller? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Looks cool, like a "piano submarine" :-) A little thin on > >>>>>> information > >>>>>> that page, isn't it? From the video it seems as notes are located > >>>>>> in > >>>>>> linear way, similar to a piano? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I must say I'm more intrigued by Ableton's new instrument Push, > >>>>>> due to > >>>>>> its non linear location of notes. The chromatic scale layout on > >>>>>> Push > >>>>>> is based on rows differing by a fourths and this creates what to > >>>>>> me > >>>>>> seems to very playable note locations. In fact, the hand patterns > >>>>>> are > >>>>>> the same as if tapping a fourths tuned fretted string instrument. > >>>>>> Another aspect I like with the Push is that some notes appear at > >>>>>> several positions and can be played in unison but with different > >>>>>> attack/expression, this too in common with fretted string > >>>>>> instruments.. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I've been using an Akai EWI4000s for some years and think it is > >>>>>> the > >>>>>> most (musically) expressive MIDI controller instruments I've come > >>>>>> across. Since it is based on breath control rather than > >>>>>> hitting-something-with-a-hand velocity it a challenge to program > >>>>>> good > >>>>>> synth patches to play. I think Yamaha was great in the 80s with > >>>>>> breath > >>>>>> control but since then not much product development seems to have > >>>>>> happend im this area. THat's odd, thinking about how a simple > >>>>>> hose to > >>>>>> blow into increases the expressiveness of any simple keyboard. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Greetings from Sweden > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Per Boysen > >>>>>> www.perboysen.com > >>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Mark Francombe > >>>> www.markfrancombe.com > >>>> www.ordoabkhao.com > >>>> http://vimeo.com/user825094 > >>>> http://www.looop.no > >>>> twitter @markfrancombe > >>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ > >>> > >> > >
