Re: new looper?

[Bob Amstadt <bob@amstadt.com>]

I have a target in mind, but I haven't computed the final cost to build 
the 
unit, yet.  So, the target is likely higher than what I will actually end 
up setting the price at.  For this reason, I don't think it would wise for 
me to release a number at this time.  This will be neither a low-budget 
unit nor outrageously expensive though.

--On Tuesday, January 18, 2005 12:24 PM -0500 Tom Combs <tcombs@sep.com> 
wrote:

> Can you disclose anticipated MRSP?  Or is that showing your hand a bit
> too much?
>
> Bob Amstadt wrote:
>> My original hopes were to have something ready for NAMM, but I knew that
>> wasn't a realistic goal.  As much as I'd like to say wait for what's
>> coming, I can't control the schedule.  I will say that I am working as
>> fast as I can and it will be available soon.  With other companies in
>> the marketplace, I really can't afford to announce the features before I
>> am ready to sell.
>>
>> --On Tuesday, January 18, 2005 4:43 PM +0000 looper@bluecocoa.co.uk
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Sounds great Bob
>>> However you'll need to put up something soon.. because I intend to buy 
>a
>>> repeater when they come out in a few months and so if you want me to
>>> hold on to that cash which could go to you, then I am gonna need to
>>> see/hear more...
>>> I hope you can get yourself up and running soon so we can all see this
>>> new invention.
>>> good luck mate
>>> geoff
>>>
>>>
>>> On 17 Jan 2005, at 21:29, Doug Cox wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Bob,
>>>>
>>>> I think I love you.  Please save me!
>>>>
>>>> Dig
>>>>
>>>> Bob Amstadt wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I've actually done quite a bit of work on this unit.  The prototype
>>>>> that I'm talking about will be the first unit built in the rack box.
>>>>> I have several empty rack boxes behind me just waiting for the final
>>>>> electronics.
>>>>>
>>>>> I will be doing beta testing before shipping to customers.  I'll keep
>>>>> everyone informed of progress.
>>>>>
>>>>> As for details, I'm still keeping the details close to home.
>>>>> Especially now that the Repeater is returning to the market.  I don't
>>>>> think that they could change their electronics that fast, but I'd
>>>>> rather not take a chance. As soon as I have the first rack unit
>>>>> operational, I will take pictures and release a complete list of
>>>>> specifications.  I will say that my goal is to offer all the
>>>>> functionality of existing loopers combined with features that nobody
>>>>> else has.
>>>>>
>>>>> --On Monday, January 17, 2005 12:31 PM -0600 Doug Cox
>>>>> <dougcox@pdq.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Bob,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Those are exciting plans!  I'm intrigued.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you really think you'll be selling a commercial version of the
>>>>>> device
>>>>>> within a few months?  I'm no expert, but am surprised that you'll be
>>>>>> able
>>>>>> to go from prototype to a finished product that quickly.  Is there
>>>>>> any
>>>>>> forum where we can keep up with your progress, get some hints about
>>>>>> functionality, and possibly even participate in beta testing?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dig
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bob Amstadt wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I can say very little at this time, but I will say that it will fit
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> a 1U rack space and will be built on current technology.  There 
>will
>>>>>>> be non-volatile storage for loops and stereo input and output.
>>>>>>> There
>>>>>>> are other features that I prefer not to disclose at this time, but 
>I
>>>>>>> will as soon as the first prototype is completed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Probably the biggest selling point is that this looper will not be
>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>> the mercy of a large corporation.  My goal will be to provide
>>>>>>> software
>>>>>>> upgrades on a regular basis.  The upgrades will be based on the
>>>>>>> direct
>>>>>>> requests of the users of this device.  Software upgrades will be
>>>>>>> available for download over the Internet.  This will allow me to
>>>>>>> offer
>>>>>>> the latest and greatest software to all users of this product.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's all I care to say for now.  Back to work on the prototype
>>>>>>> unit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --On Sunday, January 16, 2005 4:01 PM -0500 David Kirkdorffer
>>>>>>> <vze2ncsr@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bob -
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Are there any further details you feel comfortable disclosing at
>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>> time?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> David
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: "Bob Amstadt" <bob@amstadt.com>
>>>>>>>> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 2:41 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: AW: Electrix Announces....
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Expect another looper on the market in a couple of months.
>>>>>>>>> Development
>>>>>>>>> is going well and I expect to have a prototype completed in about
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> month.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --On Saturday, January 15, 2005 10:57 AM -0800 mark sottilaro
>>>>>>>>> <marksottilaro@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > Hm, I could be wrong, but with the Repeater some blank
>>>>>>>>> > space is put before and after each loop so that you
>>>>>>>>> > can go back and tweak your loop in and out point.
>>>>>>>>> > This takes time and is what currently makes it
>>>>>>>>> > impossible to go directly into record.  I'd easily
>>>>>>>>> > lose the loop tweak functions as I find the LPA (loop
>>>>>>>>> > point assist) stretching function to work fine for me.
>>>>>>>>> >  All this speculation!  Exciting times though.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > Mark
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > --- Luca Formentini <luca@unguitar.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> >> right Rainer !
>>>>>>>>> >> I agree
>>>>>>>>> >> luca
>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>> >> www.unguitar.com
>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>> >> Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>> >> > Yet, for me, only providing the possibility to go
>>>>>>>>> >> directly into overdub
>>>>>>>>> >> > after recording a loop would be "a big jump forward
>>>>>>>>> >> from the
>>>>>>>>> >> > functionality of the original unit".
>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>> >> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>>>>>>>> >> > Von: Travis Hartnett [mailto:tiktok@sprintmail.com]
>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>> >> > Gesendet: Samstag, 15. Januar 2005 17:49
>>>>>>>>> >> > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>>>>>>>>> >> > Betreff: Re: Electrix Announces....
>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>> >> > I'm no accountant, but maybe they managed to wave
>>>>>>>>> >> the magic wand of
>>>>>>>>> >> > debt restructuring so now they have no R&D costs to
>>>>>>>>> >> recoup?  And yeah,
>>>>>>>>> >> > it's probably made in China now to lower
>>>>>>>>> >> manufacturing costs.
>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>> >> > After filtering marketing speak, their description
>>>>>>>>> >> of the new version
>>>>>>>>> >> > sounded to me like "Fixed some bugs in OS 1.1 and
>>>>>>>>> >> put a pretty
>>>>>>>>> >> > faceplate on".  More power to them if that's true,
>>>>>>>>> >> but I'm not
>>>>>>>>> >> > expecting a big jump forward from the functionality
>>>>>>>>> >> of the original
>>>>>>>>> >> > unit.
>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>> >> > On Jan 15, 2005, at 8:39 AM,
>>>>>>>>> >> > Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.com
>>>>>>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>> >> >> From: "jondrums" <jondrums@hotmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> >> >> Date: January 14, 2005 10:08:57 AM PST
>>>>>>>>> >> >> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
>>>>>>>>> >> >> Subject: Re: Electrix Announces....
>>>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>>>> >> >>
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>>>>>>>>> >> >>> always plenty of them).  If Electrix lost money
>>>>>>>>> >> manufacturing these
>>>>>>>>> >> >>> things and selling them for $300-400 how are they
>>>>>>>>> >> going to make any
>>>>>>>>> >> >>> money selling them this time around?
>>>>>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>>>>>> >> >> Maybe they moved production offshore and reduced
>>>>>>>>> >> manufacturing cost on
>>>>>>>>> >> >> them? One would hope that they've tackled the
>>>>>>>>> >> little problem of making
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