Re: new looper?

[Alex Stahl <alex@pixar.com>]

Will it be running an embedded Linux, by any chance? If so, might you 
consider making it somewhat open to third-party developers?

just speculating wildly...sorry


-Alex

On Jan 18, 2005, at 9:45 AM, Bob Amstadt wrote:

> I have a target in mind, but I haven't computed the final cost to 
> build the unit, yet.  So, the target is likely higher than what I will 
> actually end up setting the price at.  For this reason, I don't think 
> it would wise for me to release a number at this time.  This will be 
> neither a low-budget unit nor outrageously expensive though.
>
> --On Tuesday, January 18, 2005 12:24 PM -0500 Tom Combs 
> <tcombs@sep.com> wrote:
>
>> Can you disclose anticipated MRSP?  Or is that showing your hand a bit
>> too much?
>>
>> Bob Amstadt wrote:
>>> My original hopes were to have something ready for NAMM, but I knew 
>>> that
>>> wasn't a realistic goal.  As much as I'd like to say wait for what's
>>> coming, I can't control the schedule.  I will say that I am working 
>>> as
>>> fast as I can and it will be available soon.  With other companies in
>>> the marketplace, I really can't afford to announce the features 
>>> before I
>>> am ready to sell.
>>>
>>> --On Tuesday, January 18, 2005 4:43 PM +0000 looper@bluecocoa.co.uk
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sounds great Bob
>>>> However you'll need to put up something soon.. because I intend to 
>>>> buy a
>>>> repeater when they come out in a few months and so if you want me to
>>>> hold on to that cash which could go to you, then I am gonna need to
>>>> see/hear more...
>>>> I hope you can get yourself up and running soon so we can all see 
>>>> this
>>>> new invention.
>>>> good luck mate
>>>> geoff
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 17 Jan 2005, at 21:29, Doug Cox wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear Bob,
>>>>>
>>>>> I think I love you.  Please save me!
>>>>>
>>>>> Dig
>>>>>
>>>>> Bob Amstadt wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I've actually done quite a bit of work on this unit.  The 
>>>>>> prototype
>>>>>> that I'm talking about will be the first unit built in the rack 
>>>>>> box.
>>>>>> I have several empty rack boxes behind me just waiting for the 
>>>>>> final
>>>>>> electronics.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I will be doing beta testing before shipping to customers.  I'll 
>>>>>> keep
>>>>>> everyone informed of progress.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As for details, I'm still keeping the details close to home.
>>>>>> Especially now that the Repeater is returning to the market.  I 
>>>>>> don't
>>>>>> think that they could change their electronics that fast, but I'd
>>>>>> rather not take a chance. As soon as I have the first rack unit
>>>>>> operational, I will take pictures and release a complete list of
>>>>>> specifications.  I will say that my goal is to offer all the
>>>>>> functionality of existing loopers combined with features that 
>>>>>> nobody
>>>>>> else has.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --On Monday, January 17, 2005 12:31 PM -0600 Doug Cox
>>>>>> <dougcox@pdq.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bob,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Those are exciting plans!  I'm intrigued.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do you really think you'll be selling a commercial version of the
>>>>>>> device
>>>>>>> within a few months?  I'm no expert, but am surprised that 
>>>>>>> you'll be
>>>>>>> able
>>>>>>> to go from prototype to a finished product that quickly.  Is 
>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>> forum where we can keep up with your progress, get some hints 
>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>> functionality, and possibly even participate in beta testing?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dig
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bob Amstadt wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I can say very little at this time, but I will say that it will 
>>>>>>>> fit
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> a 1U rack space and will be built on current technology.  There 
>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>> be non-volatile storage for loops and stereo input and output.
>>>>>>>> There
>>>>>>>> are other features that I prefer not to disclose at this time, 
>>>>>>>> but I
>>>>>>>> will as soon as the first prototype is completed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Probably the biggest selling point is that this looper will not 
>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>> the mercy of a large corporation.  My goal will be to provide
>>>>>>>> software
>>>>>>>> upgrades on a regular basis.  The upgrades will be based on the
>>>>>>>> direct
>>>>>>>> requests of the users of this device.  Software upgrades will be
>>>>>>>> available for download over the Internet.  This will allow me to
>>>>>>>> offer
>>>>>>>> the latest and greatest software to all users of this product.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's all I care to say for now.  Back to work on the prototype
>>>>>>>> unit.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --On Sunday, January 16, 2005 4:01 PM -0500 David Kirkdorffer
>>>>>>>> <vze2ncsr@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Bob -
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Are there any further details you feel comfortable disclosing 
>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>> time?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> David
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>> From: "Bob Amstadt" <bob@amstadt.com>
>>>>>>>>> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 2:41 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: AW: Electrix Announces....
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Expect another looper on the market in a couple of months.
>>>>>>>>>> Development
>>>>>>>>>> is going well and I expect to have a prototype completed in 
>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> month.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --On Saturday, January 15, 2005 10:57 AM -0800 mark sottilaro
>>>>>>>>>> <marksottilaro@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > Hm, I could be wrong, but with the Repeater some blank
>>>>>>>>>> > space is put before and after each loop so that you
>>>>>>>>>> > can go back and tweak your loop in and out point.
>>>>>>>>>> > This takes time and is what currently makes it
>>>>>>>>>> > impossible to go directly into record.  I'd easily
>>>>>>>>>> > lose the loop tweak functions as I find the LPA (loop
>>>>>>>>>> > point assist) stretching function to work fine for me.
>>>>>>>>>> >  All this speculation!  Exciting times though.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > Mark
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > --- Luca Formentini <luca@unguitar.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >> right Rainer !
>>>>>>>>>> >> I agree
>>>>>>>>>> >> luca
>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >> www.unguitar.com
>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >> Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >> > Yet, for me, only providing the possibility to go
>>>>>>>>>> >> directly into overdub
>>>>>>>>>> >> > after recording a loop would be "a big jump forward
>>>>>>>>>> >> from the
>>>>>>>>>> >> > functionality of the original unit".
>>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>>> >> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>>>>>>>>> >> > Von: Travis Hartnett [mailto:tiktok@sprintmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >> > Gesendet: Samstag, 15. Januar 2005 17:49
>>>>>>>>>> >> > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>>>>>>>>>> >> > Betreff: Re: Electrix Announces....
>>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>>> >> > I'm no accountant, but maybe they managed to wave
>>>>>>>>>> >> the magic wand of
>>>>>>>>>> >> > debt restructuring so now they have no R&D costs to
>>>>>>>>>> >> recoup?  And yeah,
>>>>>>>>>> >> > it's probably made in China now to lower
>>>>>>>>>> >> manufacturing costs.
>>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>>> >> > After filtering marketing speak, their description
>>>>>>>>>> >> of the new version
>>>>>>>>>> >> > sounded to me like "Fixed some bugs in OS 1.1 and
>>>>>>>>>> >> put a pretty
>>>>>>>>>> >> > faceplate on".  More power to them if that's true,
>>>>>>>>>> >> but I'm not
>>>>>>>>>> >> > expecting a big jump forward from the functionality
>>>>>>>>>> >> of the original
>>>>>>>>>> >> > unit.
>>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>>> >> > On Jan 15, 2005, at 8:39 AM,
>>>>>>>>>> >> > Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.com
>>>>>>>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>>> >> >> From: "jondrums" <jondrums@hotmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> >> >> Date: January 14, 2005 10:08:57 AM PST
>>>>>>>>>> >> >> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
>>>>>>>>>> >> >> Subject: Re: Electrix Announces....
>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> always plenty of them).  If Electrix lost money
>>>>>>>>>> >> manufacturing these
>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> things and selling them for $300-400 how are they
>>>>>>>>>> >> going to make any
>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> money selling them this time around?
>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>>>>>>> >> >> Maybe they moved production offshore and reduced
>>>>>>>>>> >> manufacturing cost on
>>>>>>>>>> >> >> them? One would hope that they've tackled the
>>>>>>>>>> >> little problem of making
>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
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>>>>>>>>>> >> >> a profit...
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>> SEP, Inc.
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