Re: new looper?

[Bob Amstadt <bob@amstadt.com>]

Regardless of how the software is constructed, I may choose to enter into 
license agreements with third party developers.  At this time I have no 
immediate plans to do this.  I feel that it is more important to have a 
product on the market first.

--On Tuesday, January 18, 2005 11:26 AM -0800 Alex Stahl <alex@pixar.com> 
wrote:

> Will it be running an embedded Linux, by any chance? If so, might you
> consider making it somewhat open to third-party developers?
>
> just speculating wildly...sorry
>
>
> -Alex
>
> On Jan 18, 2005, at 9:45 AM, Bob Amstadt wrote:
>
>> I have a target in mind, but I haven't computed the final cost to
>> build the unit, yet.  So, the target is likely higher than what I will
>> actually end up setting the price at.  For this reason, I don't think
>> it would wise for me to release a number at this time.  This will be
>> neither a low-budget unit nor outrageously expensive though.
>>
>> --On Tuesday, January 18, 2005 12:24 PM -0500 Tom Combs
>> <tcombs@sep.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Can you disclose anticipated MRSP?  Or is that showing your hand a bit
>>> too much?
>>>
>>> Bob Amstadt wrote:
>>>> My original hopes were to have something ready for NAMM, but I knew
>>>> that
>>>> wasn't a realistic goal.  As much as I'd like to say wait for what's
>>>> coming, I can't control the schedule.  I will say that I am working
>>>> as
>>>> fast as I can and it will be available soon.  With other companies in
>>>> the marketplace, I really can't afford to announce the features
>>>> before I
>>>> am ready to sell.
>>>>
>>>> --On Tuesday, January 18, 2005 4:43 PM +0000 looper@bluecocoa.co.uk
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Sounds great Bob
>>>>> However you'll need to put up something soon.. because I intend to
>>>>> buy a
>>>>> repeater when they come out in a few months and so if you want me to
>>>>> hold on to that cash which could go to you, then I am gonna need to
>>>>> see/hear more...
>>>>> I hope you can get yourself up and running soon so we can all see
>>>>> this
>>>>> new invention.
>>>>> good luck mate
>>>>> geoff
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 17 Jan 2005, at 21:29, Doug Cox wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Bob,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think I love you.  Please save me!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dig
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bob Amstadt wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've actually done quite a bit of work on this unit.  The
>>>>>>> prototype
>>>>>>> that I'm talking about will be the first unit built in the rack
>>>>>>> box.
>>>>>>> I have several empty rack boxes behind me just waiting for the
>>>>>>> final
>>>>>>> electronics.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I will be doing beta testing before shipping to customers.  I'll
>>>>>>> keep
>>>>>>> everyone informed of progress.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As for details, I'm still keeping the details close to home.
>>>>>>> Especially now that the Repeater is returning to the market.  I
>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>> think that they could change their electronics that fast, but I'd
>>>>>>> rather not take a chance. As soon as I have the first rack unit
>>>>>>> operational, I will take pictures and release a complete list of
>>>>>>> specifications.  I will say that my goal is to offer all the
>>>>>>> functionality of existing loopers combined with features that
>>>>>>> nobody
>>>>>>> else has.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --On Monday, January 17, 2005 12:31 PM -0600 Doug Cox
>>>>>>> <dougcox@pdq.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bob,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Those are exciting plans!  I'm intrigued.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Do you really think you'll be selling a commercial version of the
>>>>>>>> device
>>>>>>>> within a few months?  I'm no expert, but am surprised that
>>>>>>>> you'll be
>>>>>>>> able
>>>>>>>> to go from prototype to a finished product that quickly.  Is
>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>> forum where we can keep up with your progress, get some hints
>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>> functionality, and possibly even participate in beta testing?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dig
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bob Amstadt wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I can say very little at this time, but I will say that it will
>>>>>>>>> fit
>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>> a 1U rack space and will be built on current technology.  There
>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>> be non-volatile storage for loops and stereo input and output.
>>>>>>>>> There
>>>>>>>>> are other features that I prefer not to disclose at this time,
>>>>>>>>> but I
>>>>>>>>> will as soon as the first prototype is completed.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Probably the biggest selling point is that this looper will not
>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>> the mercy of a large corporation.  My goal will be to provide
>>>>>>>>> software
>>>>>>>>> upgrades on a regular basis.  The upgrades will be based on the
>>>>>>>>> direct
>>>>>>>>> requests of the users of this device.  Software upgrades will be
>>>>>>>>> available for download over the Internet.  This will allow me to
>>>>>>>>> offer
>>>>>>>>> the latest and greatest software to all users of this product.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That's all I care to say for now.  Back to work on the prototype
>>>>>>>>> unit.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --On Sunday, January 16, 2005 4:01 PM -0500 David Kirkdorffer
>>>>>>>>> <vze2ncsr@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Bob -
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Are there any further details you feel comfortable disclosing
>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>> time?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> David
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>> From: "Bob Amstadt" <bob@amstadt.com>
>>>>>>>>>> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 2:41 PM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: AW: Electrix Announces....
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Expect another looper on the market in a couple of months.
>>>>>>>>>>> Development
>>>>>>>>>>> is going well and I expect to have a prototype completed in
>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>> month.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --On Saturday, January 15, 2005 10:57 AM -0800 mark sottilaro
>>>>>>>>>>> <marksottilaro@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> > Hm, I could be wrong, but with the Repeater some blank
>>>>>>>>>>> > space is put before and after each loop so that you
>>>>>>>>>>> > can go back and tweak your loop in and out point.
>>>>>>>>>>> > This takes time and is what currently makes it
>>>>>>>>>>> > impossible to go directly into record.  I'd easily
>>>>>>>>>>> > lose the loop tweak functions as I find the LPA (loop
>>>>>>>>>>> > point assist) stretching function to work fine for me.
>>>>>>>>>>> >  All this speculation!  Exciting times though.
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> > Mark
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> > --- Luca Formentini <luca@unguitar.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> >> right Rainer !
>>>>>>>>>>> >> I agree
>>>>>>>>>>> >> luca
>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>> >> www.unguitar.com
>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>> >> Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>> >> > Yet, for me, only providing the possibility to go
>>>>>>>>>>> >> directly into overdub
>>>>>>>>>>> >> > after recording a loop would be "a big jump forward
>>>>>>>>>>> >> from the
>>>>>>>>>>> >> > functionality of the original unit".
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>> >> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>>>>>>>>>> >> > Von: Travis Hartnett [mailto:tiktok@sprintmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>> >> > Gesendet: Samstag, 15. Januar 2005 17:49
>>>>>>>>>>> >> > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>>>>>>>>>>> >> > Betreff: Re: Electrix Announces....
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>> >> > I'm no accountant, but maybe they managed to wave
>>>>>>>>>>> >> the magic wand of
>>>>>>>>>>> >> > debt restructuring so now they have no R&D costs to
>>>>>>>>>>> >> recoup?  And yeah,
>>>>>>>>>>> >> > it's probably made in China now to lower
>>>>>>>>>>> >> manufacturing costs.
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>> >> > After filtering marketing speak, their description
>>>>>>>>>>> >> of the new version
>>>>>>>>>>> >> > sounded to me like "Fixed some bugs in OS 1.1 and
>>>>>>>>>>> >> put a pretty
>>>>>>>>>>> >> > faceplate on".  More power to them if that's true,
>>>>>>>>>>> >> but I'm not
>>>>>>>>>>> >> > expecting a big jump forward from the functionality
>>>>>>>>>>> >> of the original
>>>>>>>>>>> >> > unit.
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>> >> > On Jan 15, 2005, at 8:39 AM,
>>>>>>>>>>> >> > Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.com
>>>>>>>>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> From: "jondrums" <jondrums@hotmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> Date: January 14, 2005 10:08:57 AM PST
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> Subject: Re: Electrix Announces....
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> always plenty of them).  If Electrix lost money
>>>>>>>>>>> >> manufacturing these
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> things and selling them for $300-400 how are they
>>>>>>>>>>> >> going to make any
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> money selling them this time around?
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> Maybe they moved production offshore and reduced
>>>>>>>>>>> >> manufacturing cost on
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> them? One would hope that they've tackled the
>>>>>>>>>>> >> little problem of making
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
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>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> a profit...
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> Jon
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>>> --
>>> Tom Combs, Senior Engineer
>>> SEP, Inc.
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