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-----Original Message----- From: Andreas Willers [mailto:A.Willers@t-online.de] > stepping on that damn thing to finally arrive there and > d) executing INSERT=REPLACE in a meaningful way is just to much. Hi Andreas, Yes, I too find it hard to incorporate the EDP in group improvisations without any sync. What I'm usually in that situation is to use the EDP "free-wheeling" (unquantised and unrounded). Then I can press down the multiply button to destructively record (sustain action) a loop of what I'm playing and at the same time sync the EDP to the tempo we are playing in at the moment. If the loop is ok I let it spin for a while behind my playing. If I hear the loop loosing its sync I can either step a button to "restart" (don't have the Loop4 manual here on this laptop to check out the correct vocabulary) or simply record a new loop by the sustained action of the multiply button - or empty the loop by bringing down feedback to "0". Another interesting use of this free-wheeling setting is to catch a 4th or 8th note and play in overdub mode (similar to a delay). If you alternate between HalfSpeed and FullSpeed you can actually use the echo bounces to create a second instrumental line one octave under what you are playing. Best wishes Per Boysen __________________________________ www.boysen.se www.looproom.com