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not many use Insert, because it leaves you in a "hole". But as I discovered with Michael and Cathrin discovered that once you play together, it makes a lot more sense: the brothers continue, and you can "loosen up" your loop. The original idea is maintained, but the others reacted to it, so you can repeat less often, thus give more space to add to the idea. (overloaded loops are a frequent problem when several musicians do them together...) -- ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org