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On Monday, August 25, 2003, at 06:58 PM, Dennis W. Leas wrote: > 4) I really wish software could be delivered without risking piracy. > I'm > sure we would have many more fine products available if piracy could be > prevented. Personally, I think Matthias and Kim would be nuts to > release a > software only EDP. The inverse of this is buying software that becomes unsupported. I spent $350 on a suite of MAS plug ins that I used a LOT. They're talking about doing OSX versions, but "no time soon" has been their line for a year. I think you'd just have to make the looper so complicated that you'd need a manual. People would come on to LD to ask questions and we'd just say, " chapter 4 has it" and they'd say, "we don't have the manual." Then Kim and I go over and break their knees. Easy! Mark Sottilaro