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You know, I've always been in the "I don't ever use canned loops" category and still haven't used one yet. That being said and done, I'm amazed at how many people watching my shows (when they are not playing to the converted at , say a Looping Festival full of live loopers) come up to me and ask me about how I am triggering those canned loops. I think the general public these days has become so inured to backing tracks, creative DJ shows and shows that use different kinds of modes (Portishead come to mind with their seemless live use of scratched groove on turntable, sequenced analogue synthesize, live rock/soul band and live vocals) that they frequently care less whether one uses some prerecorded loops. I'm beginning to see where it might be liberating for me to investigate that (and, again, I mean in a general audience performance kind of situation). I have to admit, I get a giant kick out of looping a brass candy dish who's overtones that I am manipulating in a comb filter stylee in real time and then suddenly picking up my wind synth and playing that loop modally over three octaves. There really hasn't been a time until recently where there was gear that would allow you to do such a thing in front of an audiences eyes. Mass general audiences have been listening to looped samples since the advent of hip hop in their recorded music so, in a way, if it serves the music, there is no big deal about using pre-recorded loops. Chris, Michael Peters, Leander Reininhaus and I both saw TARWATER in Berlin the day after the 1st Berlin Live Looping Festival and the two of them (who are brilliant IMHO) went on stage with two AKAI MPC 2000s (sample players) and triggerred loops live with their fingers. One sang while he did that, the other played all the bass lines while he did similar things. I, personally, loved that show because the music was so compelling and it was wonderful to be seeing two of my musical heroes. Chris and I, who have been contemplating starting a new live duet abstract electronica pop band with vocals turned to each other and just broke into shit eating grins because we realized that we could rely on a precorded loop or sequence or two and keep the bulk of the playing live so that we can give the project the timbral variation that it would have on the record that we will record (as soon as we have actually taken the time to record the records). It's wierd, but I felt elated and liberated to realize that I've always owned the technology to pull it off (but never the courage to actually do it). ****************************** Also, on tour this summer when I had a particularly cool loop in my EDP or Repeater or DL-4 I would record it into my 128 meg CFC card. I still haven't gone back an listened to them yet, but I'll bet I have the makings of several really cool songs for my next record of abstract electronica in those loops....................they won't, when I 'm finished with them, sound a whole hell of a lot like the live pieces I played but hell, I made the music, I guess I can plaigarize myself as much as I want...........LOL. The first track on my live CD used this technique..............it's source material is only one live piece but I chopped it up in ACID on the 'puter....................it's the only piece that isn't really live on an otherwise live looping CD, but I just wanted to start the record off with something really cool. Rick Walker